[IC] Xiang Ming KSB Alps Clone Switches
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
I am considering running a USA group buy for Xiang Ming KSB switches. This will be my first group buy ever so I may make some mistakes.
Anyway, the switches are clicky and linear (KSB-C and KSB-LE) "The clicky switches are noted for being significantly stiffer than Alps and Fuhua switches, with strong tactility."
wiki/Xiang_Min_KSB_series
I am just putting this out there to see how many would be interested in such a group buy, reply if interested.
Anyway, the switches are clicky and linear (KSB-C and KSB-LE) "The clicky switches are noted for being significantly stiffer than Alps and Fuhua switches, with strong tactility."
wiki/Xiang_Min_KSB_series
I am just putting this out there to see how many would be interested in such a group buy, reply if interested.
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
Good in-production Alps cloneMyoth wrote: ↑what's the appeal of these ?
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
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- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
Their site says 5 million, but I don't know if that's accurate, I think they tested it under 12v. I'd say with normal keyboard usage around 20 million you get with SKBM-like switches. They are gold plated and look similar to Tai-Hao's contacts.
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
Xiang Ming hasn't responded yet, so I contacted Hua-Jie.
- Techno Trousers
- 100,000,000 actuations
- Location: California
- Main keyboard: IBM Model F-122
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"Significantly stiffer" than white Alps sounds a little scary to me.
- Elrick
- Location: Swan View, AUSTRALIA
- Main keyboard: Alps - As much as Possible.
- Main mouse: MX518
- Favorite switch: Navy Switch, ALPs, Model-M
- DT Pro Member: -
REAL men are never scared, they just tackle any switch regardless.Techno Trousers wrote: ↑"Significantly stiffer" than white Alps sounds a little scary to me.
This switch is probably used by Arnold Schwarzenegger on his non-acting days. So if the Terminator can use them, any brave individual could do the same.
- mike52787
- Alps Aficionado
- Location: South-West Florida
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- Favorite switch: Vintage MX Black
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- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
Mainly because other than Matias and to a lesser extent, Tai-Hao, they are extremely hard to get. The last time XMs were in the mainstream was some old Ducky board from 2010, before the mechanical renaissance of recent years. In fact, I can't seem to get in contact with Xiang Min at all, I may have to make this a Hua-Jie only group buy (I DID get in contact with them)
- Polecat
- Location: Downstream from Silicon Valley
- Main keyboard: Monterey K104 Industrial Gray
- Main mouse: Logitech Optical
- Favorite switch: Early Alps SKCM
- DT Pro Member: -
Has anyone tried the switches Datacomp still lists on their site? Probably disappointing like most modern clones, but I've never heard a firsthand report on these. They show three versions of "ALPS Type" switches--red/linear, blue/tactile, and brown/silent tactile. Going by the photos these have wide tabs like genuine Alps, rather than being four tab clones.
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=246
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=245
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=244
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=246
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=245
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=244
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
That might be a better bet, since Xiang Min isn't responding at all. However they don't seem to have a clicky version.Polecat wrote: ↑Has anyone tried the switches Datacomp still lists on their site? Probably disappointing like most modern clones, but I've never heard a firsthand report on these. They show three versions of "ALPS Type" switches--red/linear, blue/tactile, and brown/silent tactile. Going by the photos these have wide tabs like genuine Alps, rather than being four tab clones.
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=246
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=245
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=244
- Polecat
- Location: Downstream from Silicon Valley
- Main keyboard: Monterey K104 Industrial Gray
- Main mouse: Logitech Optical
- Favorite switch: Early Alps SKCM
- DT Pro Member: -
I'm guessing that blue/tactile might be clicky, as opposed to brown/silent tactile.
abrahamstechnology wrote: ↑That might be a better bet, since Xiang Min isn't responding at all. However they don't seem to have a clicky version.Polecat wrote: ↑Has anyone tried the switches Datacomp still lists on their site? Probably disappointing like most modern clones, but I've never heard a firsthand report on these. They show three versions of "ALPS Type" switches--red/linear, blue/tactile, and brown/silent tactile. Going by the photos these have wide tabs like genuine Alps, rather than being four tab clones.
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=246
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=245
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=244
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
Most likely. I'll shoot them an e-mail.Polecat wrote: ↑I'm guessing that blue/tactile might be clicky, as opposed to brown/silent tactile.
abrahamstechnology wrote: ↑That might be a better bet, since Xiang Min isn't responding at all. However they don't seem to have a clicky version.Polecat wrote: ↑Has anyone tried the switches Datacomp still lists on their site? Probably disappointing like most modern clones, but I've never heard a firsthand report on these. They show three versions of "ALPS Type" switches--red/linear, blue/tactile, and brown/silent tactile. Going by the photos these have wide tabs like genuine Alps, rather than being four tab clones.
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=246
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=245
http://www.datacomp.com.tw/ShowProducts.asp?id=244
- Polecat
- Location: Downstream from Silicon Valley
- Main keyboard: Monterey K104 Industrial Gray
- Main mouse: Logitech Optical
- Favorite switch: Early Alps SKCM
- DT Pro Member: -
Here's the past discussion on the Datacomp switches. Seems strange that nobody has actual examples in hand:
keyboards-f2/new-datacomp-alps-t17278.h ... er#p384343
keyboards-f2/new-datacomp-alps-t17278.h ... er#p384343
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
Hopefully that'll change. If they get back to me I'll buy a bunch and resell them here.Polecat wrote: ↑Here's the past discussion on the Datacomp switches. Seems strange that nobody has actual examples in hand:
keyboards-f2/new-datacomp-alps-t17278.h ... er#p384343