Round 5: The Cappening

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Muirium
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02 Sep 2015, 19:53

Just the thought of gluing stabs into any of my precious caps freaks me out! Make it stop!!

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zslane

02 Sep 2015, 20:01

It's more like a high-grade rubber cement. Kinda stretchy if you really pull on it, and it will detach with enough effort, so the inserts aren't truly permenant.

Besides, the chances that I'll someday need to put those caps on a board without Costars is virtually nil.

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Halvar

02 Sep 2015, 20:07

I'm using a very small bit of polyethylene film on the stabilizer (meaning I cut small pieces from a thin plastic bag and put one in between cap and stab).

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infodroid

02 Sep 2015, 22:27

Halvar wrote: I'm using a very small bit of polyethylene film on the stabilizer (meaning I cut small pieces from a thin plastic bag and put one in between cap and stab).
Would you recommend cling film?

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Phill1

02 Sep 2015, 23:38

For some reason it's just the TKL Filcos and not the 104s that have clearance issues with SA caps

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zslane

02 Sep 2015, 23:48

Hey Phill, could you reiterate what the clearance issue with Filcos is?

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Phill1

02 Sep 2015, 23:56

Yeah the left side is real tight, like the left ctrl, shift, caps, and can rub against them. Pretty easy fix, just sand down the case a little, it's literally like mm's. Also doesn't affect every keyboard, just some

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zslane

03 Sep 2015, 00:23

Okay, good to know.

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Mad Dasher

03 Sep 2015, 00:29

Thanks for the GD/GPA comparison, Mu. In a way it's reassuring to see they're almost unidentifiably close.

In the absence of 1-2-3-4-5-6, 1-1-2-3-4-3 or 3-1-2-3-4-3 seem the best compromises to me. I keep meaning to try a DSA mod row for the half height thing.

Here are some more successful shots of the Unitek K-156. It didn't turn out quite as planned, getting more Round 4 and grab bag leftovers than expected instead of useful Round 5 kits like mixed f1tof12s and elaborate but forgotten cursorbase plans. Should I reconsider and go for a batch recap?
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Muirium
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03 Sep 2015, 01:21

Ah, the white NUMNUM. If I actually even had a fullsize MX board in my possession back when I ordered Round 5, I should have added one of those. But I wasn't willing to be so much of a mad completionist to go beyond a colour and a half's worth of numpad coverage for something hypothetical!

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Black and white would look so snappy…

Anyway, I must ask, what happens when you smash that YES key of yours?

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cookie

03 Sep 2015, 11:57

My time will come!

kungfoo

03 Sep 2015, 14:21

I did try out the thing with the plastic bag parts on the stabilizers, and I can report, it works a treat.
On my Filco TKL, there seems to be no clearance issue on any of the keys, so I am pretty happy.
Pics coming, but not with the cellphone, those are too crappy to post here.

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seebart
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03 Sep 2015, 14:56

That Unitek K-156 of yours is quite a piece of work facetsesame! Color me impressed. :shock: I'd like to see a shot of the whole keyboard please.

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usopia

04 Sep 2015, 15:48

infodroid wrote:
Halvar wrote: I'm using a very small bit of polyethylene film on the stabilizer (meaning I cut small pieces from a thin plastic bag and put one in between cap and stab).
Would you recommend cling film?
you can try but cling film is quite thin. Better is a piece of a plastic bag or something. I use sealing tape, works fine.

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Halvar

04 Sep 2015, 19:03

I didn't try cling film. Just an ordinary thin/light plastic bag that you get when shopping. I don't think cling film is thinner than the one I use. The main point is deformability (to lazy to look up a better word). If you deform cling film, I think it develops stronger forces to revert to its original form, which you don't want. (I'm expressing this very badly, sorry.)

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SL89

04 Sep 2015, 19:20

I use thicker plastic from freezer bags and i cut them to be a little bit longer, so when i swap caps i can pull it out if i need to

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tofagerl

04 Sep 2015, 19:48

[quote="Muirium" post_id=251605][/quote]

Even with the colors being all wrong I still want to type GOTO 10 on that last keyboard...

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Muirium
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04 Sep 2015, 20:00

This one?

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I should do a BBC Micro homage, actually. Should have all the caps for it.

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SL89

04 Sep 2015, 20:38

Idk if I already asked, but do you use the Matrix keyboard for anything?

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Muirium
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04 Sep 2015, 20:45

I think you did. It's on my project list. I need to convert it to USB, which ought to be quite easy by removing the controller and running it from a Teensy instead. The matrix is exposed.

http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/topic9280.html

Once I can program it any way I like (Soarer's Controller, naturally) I'll come up with something. I mean, I do have two of them so split keyboard layout experiments are a possibility.

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SL89

04 Sep 2015, 20:51

Like two huge plancks... I can dig it. I can't imagine they are very common.

ilezia

05 Sep 2015, 19:13

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8-)

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Muirium
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05 Sep 2015, 23:27

Very nice. The Round 4 blues make nice highlights on Round 5. I'm not sure what you're doing with your mods, though. Control does make sense as a thumb key I suppose. The Mac's Command key does all those duties, and lives either side of all my spacebars!

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GSimon

06 Sep 2015, 03:46

I'm really liking my keys :) shiny SA is great to type on

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ilezia

06 Sep 2015, 11:00

Muirium wrote: Very nice. The Round 4 blues make nice highlights on Round 5. I'm not sure what you're doing with your mods, though. Control does make sense as a thumb key I suppose. The Mac's Command key does all those duties, and lives either side of all my spacebars!
More like talking about being too excited to get the keycaps on the keyboard haha :oops:

spuit

12 Sep 2015, 14:44

Halvar wrote: I'm using a very small bit of polyethylene film on the stabilizer (meaning I cut small pieces from a thin plastic bag and put one in between cap and stab).
Well shit, I should have read this thread about 2 hours ago.
Haha, I glued those suckers in. Thankfully it's real cheap all-around glue, so it'll detach with even a little bit of force.

dvjz.dh

12 Sep 2015, 15:29

Sorry for the crappy photo . I think they are awesome !!!
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Muirium
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12 Sep 2015, 16:41

Your picture's not so bad. The colours are right, and that's an elegant little 60%. Bet the caps double its height!

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tofagerl

12 Sep 2015, 21:14

If your hand fall off a SA keyboard, can you get workers comp...?

dvjz.dh

13 Sep 2015, 13:29

Muirium wrote:Your picture's not so bad. The colours are right, and that's an elegant little 60%. Bet the caps double its height!
Thanks Murium,yes the poker 2 look a bit taller but not so much.
I'm trying to figure out how will look lika the hyper micro with this caps.

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