Me too, man... me too.
f***ing blue alps, man... (acer kb-101a review)
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
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- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
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I've found extending the feet or not doing so influences the sound of most keyboard designs and switches, to be honest. The "desk-punching" characteristic of blue Alps might exacerbate this effect a bit, though. I hope to be able to demonstrate this sometime.y11971alex wrote: ↑My secret experience with the sound of Blue Alps seems to have something to do with the feet. The sound of the DC-2014 as I remember it (I have since sold it) was far more baritone if it was flush against my desk. If the feet were extended, they still sounded quite good, but nowhere as deep. It would be a great thing if anyone with Blue Alps on hand could test if the sound varies according to the position of the keyboard feet.
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
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Yes very true, I used to think I was imagining it when it's actually noticeable in sound with my Focus FK-2002. It's not a huge difference but definitely present. Coincidentally I was using a Monterey K-104 with white Alps at a friends house on a massive marble table recetnly, quite an interesting experience believe me. The while SKCM's seemed louder and sharper to me in sound. Too bad I can't repeat that test at home.Chyros wrote: ↑My secret experience with the sound of Blue Alps seems to have something to do with the feet. The sound of the DC-2014 as I remember it (I have since sold it) was far more baritone if it was flush against my desk. If the feet were extended, they still sounded quite good, but nowhere as deep. It would be a great thing if anyone with Blue Alps on hand could test if the sound varies according to the position of the keyboard feet.I've found extending the feet or not doing so influences the sound of most keyboard designs and switches, to be honest. The "desk-punching" characteristic of blue Alps might exacerbate this effect a bit, though. I hope to be able to demonstrate this sometime.
- Lynx_Carpathica
- Location: Hungary
- Main keyboard: Apple Keyboard M0118
- Main mouse: ROG Sica
- Favorite switch: SKCM Salmon
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You're F***ing lucky.
I Hope I'll be able to find a kb with them. I'm optimistic. Yet.
I Hope I'll be able to find a kb with them. I'm optimistic. Yet.
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
Chase it long enough and you will =)Lynx_Carpathica wrote: ↑You're F***ing lucky.
I Hope I'll be able to find a kb with them. I'm optimistic. Yet.
- Wingklip
- Location: Sydnegrad, Soviet Republic of Australasia
- Main keyboard: IBM 3178 Model F C2
- Main mouse: G502 Logitech Proteus core
- Favorite switch: Beam/plate spring
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I can sell you one provided the guy who's currently interested RN on geekhack pulls outLynx_Carpathica wrote: ↑You're F***ing lucky.
I Hope I'll be able to find a kb with them. I'm optimistic. Yet.
- Tuntematon
- Location: Canada
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Looks like the blue Alps hype is peaking again after a period of relative calm. You aren't helping //gainsborough! Enjoy the board
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- Location: Canada
- Main keyboard: HHKB
- Main mouse: G400
- Favorite switch: Topre
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Your thread is what pushed me over the edge in regards to buying Mattr's T9102 - $391 total to get it shipped up here, but god damn I'm sick of not having these switches and who knows when or if I'll ever find NOS blue alps so fuck it. Can't wait for it to arrive - I'll probably make a video or two as well and try to get some good feet extended vs. flat keeb audio.
- taylorswiftttttt
- Location: USA
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- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
In hindsight I wish I would have gone your route - the "save up and wait until a clean board comes along" route. It's a lot of money, for sure, but at the end of the day if it's worth it to you, and if you have the money to do it, I don't think there's any shame in buying nice things - especially with this hobby. I'm happy my thread is what pushed you to do it - I'm gonna take partial credit for helping you get you're board (kidding, haha).cumwagondeluxe wrote: ↑Your thread is what pushed me over the edge in regards to buying Mattr's T9102 - $391 total to get it shipped up here, but god damn I'm sick of not having these switches and who knows when or if I'll ever find NOS blue alps so fuck it. Can't wait for it to arrive - I'll probably make a video or two as well and try to get some good feet extended vs. flat keeb audio.
Congrats man - you got a badass board from Matt. Sturdy metal backplate, ANSI layout, and (maybe most importantly) PRISTINE! I'm definitely holding you to your word with the video =)
- Mattr567
- Location: Socal
- Main keyboard: Many things
- Main mouse: G502
- Favorite switch: Alps in general
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Yea, it's a great board going to a good home//gainsborough wrote: ↑ In hindsight I wish I would have gone your route - the "save up and wait until a clean board comes along" route. It's a lot of money, for sure, but at the end of the day if it's worth it to you, and if you have the money to do it, I don't think there's any shame in buying nice things - especially with this hobby. I'm happy my thread is what pushed you to do it - I'm gonna take partial credit for helping you get you're board (kidding, haha).
Congrats man - you got a badass board from Matt. Sturdy metal backplate, ANSI layout, and (maybe most importantly) PRISTINE! I'm definitely holding you to your word with the video =)
I should do a typing test of my SKCM Amber V60. Amber's are very similar feeling (same non-clunky slick action compared to Whites but just a little more tactile). That's how I was able to let go of my T9102. I wouldn't be able to live without a first gen clicky Alps board lol.
Thinking about it, it's a way to get Blue's without having to go through all the hype crap, although not the complete same. I would call Blue's an overall more balanced switch for sure. They pair amazingly with Alps Electric spherical caps I got from a Canon typewriter though.
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
- DT Pro Member: -
Be sure to let us know what you think of it .cumwagondeluxe wrote: ↑Your thread is what pushed me over the edge in regards to buying Mattr's T9102 - $391 total to get it shipped up here, but god damn I'm sick of not having these switches and who knows when or if I'll ever find NOS blue alps so fuck it. Can't wait for it to arrive - I'll probably make a video or two as well and try to get some good feet extended vs. flat keeb audio.
- Hypersphere
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Silenced & Lubed HHKB (Black)
- Main mouse: Logitech G403
- Favorite switch: Topre 45/55g Silenced; Various Alps; IBM Model F
- DT Pro Member: 0038
@//gainsborough:
Dang! I shouldn't have given up so easily. This is not my usual style. I can only speculate that you were destined to own the Acer KB-101A. Glad to see that you are deriving so much satisfaction from it!
Dang! I shouldn't have given up so easily. This is not my usual style. I can only speculate that you were destined to own the Acer KB-101A. Glad to see that you are deriving so much satisfaction from it!
- Harshmallow
- Location: Canada
- Main keyboard: Various (Home) / NMB RT-101+ Intel (Work)
- Main mouse: Logitech G600 (Home)/Logitech dime-a-dozen (Work)
- Favorite switch: 4323423
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I'm glad both of you finally got your blue alps boards - I was getting tired of seeing you guys missing out on the action haha. Especially glad more rare blue alps boards are moving up to Canada I shall find one soon I think.cumwagondeluxe wrote: ↑Your thread is what pushed me over the edge in regards to buying Mattr's T9102 - $391 total to get it shipped up here, but god damn I'm sick of not having these switches and who knows when or if I'll ever find NOS blue alps so fuck it. Can't wait for it to arrive - I'll probably make a video or two as well and try to get some good feet extended vs. flat keeb audio.
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
Thanks, Hypersphere! I'm very happy with it!Hypersphere wrote: ↑@//gainsborough:
Dang! I shouldn't have given up so easily. This is not my usual style. I can only speculate that you were destined to own the Acer KB-101A. Glad to see that you are deriving so much satisfaction from it!
The time is nigh! I feel like you have been part of our vocal trio in the G/I finds thread, tirelessly searching for blue alps. We are 2/3 done, I won't be fully happy until you find yours!Harshmallow wrote: ↑I'm glad both of you finally got your blue alps boards - I was getting tired of seeing you guys missing out on the action haha. Especially glad more rare blue alps boards are moving up to Canada I shall find one soon I think.
- Mattr567
- Location: Socal
- Main keyboard: Many things
- Main mouse: G502
- Favorite switch: Alps in general
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Not sure if this is right but did you think it was $391 in shipping? $391 including cost of board and shipping.
NOS KB101A's have sold for $400...I knew I couldn't get that much plus I needed it gone in a timely manner to get in the early bird round for Model F's. Don't wanna have to wait until the end of 2017 to get it
- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
>_<Tuntematon wrote: ↑Looks like the blue Alps hype is peaking again after a period of relative calm. You aren't helping //gainsborough! Enjoy the board
I have always secretly blamed Chyros.
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- Location: Canada
- Main keyboard: HHKB
- Main mouse: G400
- Favorite switch: Topre
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Haha, I figured while a better deal lucky find *could* come up, these were gauranteed to be the real deal + the money is going to a good cause. Plus, I've spent similar amounts for a kustom and e.g. the M65 so I just kinda justified it to myself as another "custom" purchase.seebart wrote: ↑
I believe in you buddy! They come up fairly often, and even recently there was that pretty clean K9AX that went for $330 because someone went crazy with hype/was trolling and when it got relisted (once or twice iirc) finally sold for like $110 so I wouldn't worry much about some dummies buying completely trashed taobao ones for $150.Harshmallow wrote: ↑I'm glad both of you finally got your blue alps boards - I was getting tired of seeing you guys missing out on the action haha. Especially glad more rare blue alps boards are moving up to Canada I shall find one soon I think.cumwagondeluxe wrote: ↑Your thread is what pushed me over the edge in regards to buying Mattr's T9102 - $391 total to get it shipped up here, but god damn I'm sick of not having these switches and who knows when or if I'll ever find NOS blue alps so fuck it. Can't wait for it to arrive - I'll probably make a video or two as well and try to get some good feet extended vs. flat keeb audio.
Then we can flood the summer Toronto keeb meetup with tasty, tasty alps and make everyone look bad :^)//gainsborough wrote: ↑The time is nigh! I feel like you have been part of our vocal trio in the G/I finds thread, tirelessly searching for blue alps. We are 2/3 done, I won't be fully happy until you find yours!
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
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- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
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No I did understand $391 was the total including shipping. I'd say that's a pretty "solid" price altogether, but that's not for me to say. We've talked about the hype more than enough, people want it people will pay for it. I just hope everyone gets what they want and pay for. We really should have several Alps experts (I'm not one) do a direct side by side comparison of clean complicated white SKCM and blue SKCM.Mattr567 wrote: ↑Not sure if this is right but did you think it was $391 in shipping? $391 including cost of board and shipping.
NOS KB101A's have sold for $400...I knew I couldn't get that much plus I needed it gone in a timely manner to get in the early bird round for Model F's. Don't wanna have to wait until the end of 2017 to get it
Keep us updated!cumwagondeluxe wrote: ↑Haha, I figured while a better deal lucky find *could* come up, these were gauranteed to be the real deal + the money is going to a good cause. Plus, I've spent similar amounts for a kustom and e.g. the M65 so I just kinda justified it to myself as another "custom" purchase.seebart wrote: ↑
- Chyros
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: whatever I'm reviewing next :p
- Main mouse: a cheap Logitech
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Blue
- DT Pro Member: -
- Hypersphere
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Silenced & Lubed HHKB (Black)
- Main mouse: Logitech G403
- Favorite switch: Topre 45/55g Silenced; Various Alps; IBM Model F
- DT Pro Member: 0038
It does help -- to enable us to have impossibly high standards!Chyros wrote: ↑It probably doesn't help I keep taking the Acer to meetups for people to try xD .
- Mr.Nobody
- Location: China
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M/F
- Main mouse: Lenovo Big Red Dot
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
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Here is mine, I got it for less than 30 US$ from TaoBao, I don't know if it falls into the category of "Taobao trash", but I believe if I list it on ebay, some "dummy" will be willing to pay me $200 for it.No discount, No, you can't despise Taobao and enjoy a discount at the same time.
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- //gainsborough
- ALPSの日常
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: some kind of alps keyboard
- Favorite switch: clk: SKCM blue, lin: SKCL cream, tac: SKCM cream
- DT Pro Member: 0188
Yeah I'd say that's a pretty good deal, hahaha! What model is that? It looks chicony-y.
- Wingklip
- Location: Sydnegrad, Soviet Republic of Australasia
- Main keyboard: IBM 3178 Model F C2
- Main mouse: G502 Logitech Proteus core
- Favorite switch: Beam/plate spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Shhhhh don't tell them the secret of where we get all the goods we upsellMr.Nobody wrote: ↑Here is mine, I got it for less than 30US$ from TaoBao, I don't know if it falls into the category of "Taobao trash", but I believe if I list it on ebay, some "dummy" will be willing to pay me $200 for it.No discount, No, you can't despise Taobao and enjoy a discount at the same time.
- Wingklip
- Location: Sydnegrad, Soviet Republic of Australasia
- Main keyboard: IBM 3178 Model F C2
- Main mouse: G502 Logitech Proteus core
- Favorite switch: Beam/plate spring
- DT Pro Member: -
Cover up? What cover up? Surely you don't think I'm selling it for more than what I bought it for?Mr.Nobody wrote: ↑@//gainsborough
You have a good eye, it's a Chicony 5161@WingklipSpoiler:
You are right, let's cover the purchase price up...
- Mr.Nobody
- Location: China
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M/F
- Main mouse: Lenovo Big Red Dot
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: -
To DT members,not profit, to Ebay buyers, hope the price could be high as it can be.
- Wingklip
- Location: Sydnegrad, Soviet Republic of Australasia
- Main keyboard: IBM 3178 Model F C2
- Main mouse: G502 Logitech Proteus core
- Favorite switch: Beam/plate spring
- DT Pro Member: -