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Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 13 Jan 2019, 23:32
by hypkx
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 02:11
by samuelcable
https://www.ebay.com/itm/173739659874/
maybe someone here is still interested in model ms
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 02:14
by depletedvespene
DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBS!
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 06:37
by Darkshado
Found this while browsing local classifieds: "like new" black ANSI Unicomp Ultra Classic with black blanks, 120$CAD, in Montreal
Kijiji:
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-souris-claviers ... 1408719748
The ad's text was worth a chuckle, it gives a bit of background about the Model M and Unicomp, then goes on to say:
Les touches de ce clavier sont entièrement noires; ce n'est pas de l'usure, ça vient comme ça en usine (parce que si vous êtes assez hot pour utiliser un vrai clavier mécanique, vous devriez être assez hot pour maîtriser le doigté de votre clavier et faire du "touch typing").
which translates to:
The caps on this keyboard are completely black; this is not due to wear, they came like this from the factory (because if you're hot enough to use a real mechanical keyboard, you should be hot enough to master your keyboard's layout and touch type.).
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 21:23
by Keybug
Plate springs it is and PS/2 connected, no conversion necessary! Unused by the looks of it. I'm blessed!!
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 15 Jan 2019, 21:32
by Dingster
Uh...will you take 55?
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 16:32
by ZedTheMan
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 3560672322
ANSI Blue Alps, metal backplate. This seller has a ton of cool stuff.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 16:49
by twasa
Not a great find necessarily, but cheap from the local charity shop up my street: $ 3.74 for the three at the current exchange rate.
Two NTC boards and one Ortek MCK-101FX. All appear to have either white alps or clones. The NTC with the diagonal navigation keys seems peculiar.
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Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 16:56
by swampangel
Model F AT for
$225 $250 USD
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/1980s-Rare-IBM- ... 3636529627
Shipping to Canada + customs puts it out of my comfort zone. I'll likely be kicking myself later.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 17:32
by twasa
swampangel wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 16:56
Model F AT for $225 USD
I'm too new at this to know, but why are AT model F's somehow more desirable (and expensive) then XT ones?
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 17:46
by Muirium
Because of the layout. XT is very strange—an evolutionary dead end—while AT is the father of Model M and all that came since.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 18:07
by twasa
Thanks Muirium, that makes sense. Although I would expect that one can ameliorate some of the strangeness with key remapping (to a point).
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 19:27
by mhinsch
twasa wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 18:07
Thanks Muirium, that makes sense. Although I would expect that one can ameliorate some of the strangeness with key remapping (to a point).
If you throw in a couple of keycaps from a model M (arrows etc.) you can end up with a layout that's pretty close to a regular tenkeyless.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 20:27
by Muirium
Hypersphere has a remapped XT he likes to show off. Perhaps he’ll provide a pic. (Beetlejuice… Beetlejuice…)
My first mech was an XT. So I do have a certain fondness for them. But they are just so weird. Mine taught me how to use the HHKB navigation layer, which I’m thankful for as I use that so much now, but the XT itself remains an oversized oddity unsuited to my needs.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 20:43
by Gamuholic
This is the Soarer's Converter config for my F XT:
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layerblock
FN1 1
endblock
remapblock
layer 0
LALT LCTRL
LCTRL CAPS_LOCK
BACK_QUOTE ENTER
ENTER BACKSLASH
BACKSLASH LSHIFT
LSHIFT LALT
CAPS_LOCK RGUI
SCROLL_LOCK PRINTSCREEN
PAD_PLUS PAD_ENTER
PAD_ASTERIX FN1
endblock
remapblock
layer 1
PAD_7 MEDIA_VOLUME_UP
PAD_4 MEDIA_VOLUME_DOWN
PAD_1 MEDIA_MUTE
PAD_5 INSERT
ESC BACK_QUOTE
endblock
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 20:54
by Hypersphere
Muirium wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 20:27
Hypersphere has a remapped XT he likes to show off. Perhaps he’ll provide a pic. (Beetlejuice… Beetlejuice…)
My first mech was an XT. So I do have a certain fondness for them. But they are just so weird. Mine taught me how to use the HHKB navigation layer, which I’m thankful for as I use that so much now, but the XT itself remains an oversized oddity unsuited to my needs.
Thanks, I'll take that as a compliment. However, I think I'll let the curious do some research and find past postings of my remapped XT. Seeing the oversaturated colors of the training wheel caps can be a shock to the visual system, like that of suddenly switching to a technicolor movie from the 60s or 70s immediately after watching a classic B&W movie from the 40s. You have been warned!
For me, the great features of the XT are its sound and feel. I can still remember the extreme letdown after getting my first AT -- it seemed plasticky and dead after the lively sound of the XT. But the layout of the XT can make it difficult to use.
It's interesting that the relatively slight modifications to the XT layout that appeared in the Leading Edge DC-2014 and Zenith Z-150 make these boards much easier to use than the IBM XT (at least for me). On the DC-2014 and Z-150, I use the enlarged Right Bracket as my Backspace.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2019, 23:12
by jerue
So while we are talking about XT's...does anyone know what these keytoppers on the modifiers/large keys are?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-IBM-PC-Ke ... Sw8TJcPi62
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/-X8AAOSw ... -l1600.jpg
I haven't seen them before and it looks interesting, thought I would ask here
p.s. it's been a little while since I visited Deskthority, I see there's a big visual overhaul! It looks good
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 00:20
by Muirium
Oh wow… those key toppers look, well, pretty careless!
Zoom in on the bottom row. They are indeed just sitting on top of the original caps. Apparently quite vintage though, judging by how worn their legends are. Speaking of the legends, I can’t forgive that zero! Or the whole brown thing they have going on. Seems too even just to be yellowing. Gotta chuckle at the cockeyed Return key, the weirdest of all the XT’s rich troupe of goofballs. They didn’t even bother patching the +!
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 02:27
by snacksthecat
Muirium wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 00:20
Oh wow… those key toppers look, well, pretty careless!
Zoom in on the bottom row. They are indeed just sitting on top of the original caps.
What in the world are those? Erasers?
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 02:41
by snuci
jerue wrote: ↑16 Jan 2019, 23:12
So while we are talking about XT's...does anyone know what these keytoppers on the modifiers/large keys are?
See here:
viewtopic.php?f=62&t=13663&p=304146
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 17 Jan 2019, 04:09
by Polecat
I have a set in black, with the same IBM-like legends, not like the black ones in the other post:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10405&p=384176&hilit=ibm+xt#p384176
I don't recall why I kept this keyboard, but it was something unusual I think. Besides the odd caps (which are probably aftermarket) it has a plain badge that just says "IBM". Bottom label long gone.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 19 Jan 2019, 14:20
by Keybug
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Jan 2019, 18:24
by jerue
Polecat wrote: ↑17 Jan 2019, 04:09
I have a set in black, with the same IBM-like legends, not like the black ones in the other post:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10405&p=384176&hilit=ibm+xt#p384176
I don't recall why I kept this keyboard, but it was something unusual I think. Besides the odd caps (which are probably aftermarket) it has a plain badge that just says "IBM". Bottom label long gone.
very interesting! thx
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 00:31
by abrahamstechnology
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 19:33
by Dingster
Pictures stolen (reused?) from this thread
viewtopic.php?t=12406 (?)
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 23 Jan 2019, 20:35
by ZedTheMan
NOS Switchboard with a trackball accessory.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 2927507874
The initial price is very high but the seller seems willing to take a fair offer. (Still more than I can afford at the moment, but under $200)
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 25 Jan 2019, 10:18
by Drclick
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 25 Jan 2019, 10:32
by Myoth
Oh god, i'll let you have this one
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 25 Jan 2019, 10:34
by Myoth
A post wrote in the wrong thread
To answer your questions though, read from there
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 25 Jan 2019, 22:59
by balotz