How an eBay seller was (almost!) ripped off by a crook

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

22 Jun 2021, 22:08

All this seller has now left to offer is the innards of a Cherry G81-3077, i.e. the industrial grey NCR branded keyboard.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304037536469

Read the sad reason in the item description:
Up for auction are the internal parts of an NCR Model HO150-STD1-12-17 keyboard. The frame, keycaps, and connection cord are Not included. The parts shown are all that I have left after a buyer returned the NCR keyboard to me. Yes, he kept the keycaps, cord, and NCR case.....
Just in case this specific keyboard is offered for sale, according to the seller the serial no. printed on the label was 80749 E09.

Edit: now learned the seller did not have to issue a refund after all, and modified the thread title accordingly
Last edited by kbdfr on 23 Jun 2021, 09:15, edited 2 times in total.

thefarside

22 Jun 2021, 23:33

Wow. Not knowing the details of the transaction and return it doesn’t sound like it went well. Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t this keyboard sell for big money ($1000+)?

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

22 Jun 2021, 23:56

thefarside wrote:
22 Jun 2021, 23:33
Wow. Not knowing the details of the transaction and return it doesn’t sound like it went well. Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t this keyboard sell for big money ($1000+)?
Orihalcon is selling one (not that one :lol: ) on eBay and at the moment it is at $122.50 with 5 days to go:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/284340367298

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wobbled

23 Jun 2021, 00:10

Ebay have absolutely no respect for their sellers. It's a wonder how they're still in business. I've been ripped off a few times myself, my old F-122 was 'Lost in Transit'.

thefarside

23 Jun 2021, 03:44

So far none of my purchases have gone wrong (knock on wood). So if you get ripped off does eBay or PayPal help in any way? I’ve never given it much thought but should look into what options you have in case I ever make a big purchase or sale and things go wrong. I’d hate to spend $$$ and be screwed…

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zrrion

23 Jun 2021, 03:54

in this case it sounds like the seller didn't have to refund anything because the buyer sent back like 1/3 of a keyboard so this isn't all that different from the buyer throwing out the MY switches just with extra steps

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

23 Jun 2021, 07:21

More info about that, John Doe linked to a thread obviously opened on DT by the seller (who fortunately did not have to issue a refund)
John Doe wrote:
23 Jun 2021, 02:45
kbdfr wrote:
22 Jun 2021, 22:09
This is no doubt not a great find, but it is nevertheless an interesting find:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304037536469

Read my thread "How an eBay seller was ripped off by a crook" posted in another DT section:
viewtopic.php?f=67&t=25974
Seller's description reminds me of this thread.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=25027&p=476176&hilit=Fraud#p476176

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//gainsborough
ALPSの日常

23 Jun 2021, 07:26

wait - this is confusing. How does what the buyer did count as a legitimate return? You can't buy a bike from a shop and then only return the frame.

edit - okay reading the previous comments i am still confused, but for a different reason: how was the seller was ripped off? if it didn't count as a return and the seller did not have to issue a refund, what does the seller care that he/she was sent back part of his/her sale? If the sale stands, then the buyer can literally do whatever he/she wants with what was purchased, right? I mean, now the seller can resell something he/she already made money on!

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

23 Jun 2021, 09:15

//gainsborough wrote:
23 Jun 2021, 07:26
[…] okay reading the previous comments i am still confused, but for a different reason: how was the seller was ripped off? […]
Now learned the seller did not have to issue a refund after all, and modified the thread title accordingly

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

23 Jun 2021, 12:03

Found out this exact keyboard was sold last February on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/com ... _w_paypal/

The timestamp pics show the exact label information posted by the eBay seller, which is as follows:
From the back of the keyboard (which I no longer have):
NCR, Model HO150-STD1-12-17,
Article: G81-3077 SAU /03
Serial #: 80749 E09
3299-K440-V002 WS-KEYBD.US-English
* 008-0077150 B1496 *
* 0000080749 *
The original pic is hosted on imgur,
here's the part showing just the label(s) and the timestamp:
NCR on reddit.jpg
NCR on reddit.jpg (853.94 KiB) Viewed 430 times
Of course this is not to say this reddit member is the crook, they could simply have acquired the keyboard from the actual crook.

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fohat
Elder Messenger

23 Jun 2021, 15:33

wobbled wrote:
23 Jun 2021, 00:10

Ebay have absolutely no respect for their sellers.
Supply and demand.

Long ago ebay recognized that if demand exists, there will be suppliers to step in to satisfy it.

The site would wither and die if its buyers did not feel safe and comfortable. Sellers are expendable and replaceable.

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