(Model MF) Remodeling the Model M (aka.. the Mara)

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Wingklip

18 Apr 2019, 09:35

Excuse my stupidity, but what is this flat plate discussion that's been going on all about?

Rimrul

18 Apr 2019, 12:11

That's part of the Plans for "Phase 2".
lot_lizard wrote:
20 May 2016, 18:00
If you decide to read through the thread from scratch (good luck), there will be a mention of Phase 1 and 2:
  • Phase 1 is the drop-in replacement for the Model M inner assembly that turns a Model M into a functional F. The only parts remaining from the original M are the outer shell (case), and the keycaps.
  • Phase 2 is to be determined, but we would be making a new and unique board from scratch using a new buckling spring switch (hopefully improved) that would support modern layouts, keycaps, case designs, etc.
These two phases are intermixed in this thread because Phase 2 is really an extension of Phase 1. Phase 2 (new board) is really my end goal, but Phase 1 is a baby-step (though a giant baby) towards proving we are capable of doing this. We are using this thread as a "think tank" because the ideas are so closely related.
Lot lizard is planning to do a second version of this after "Phase 1" that'll deviate a bit more from the classic IBM choices (Curved Plate, Large Bezel, ...) than this current phase.

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Wingklip

18 Apr 2019, 13:38

I think it's still possible to curve the plate at the same time as keeping the profiling on the caps, the curve after all is really quite passive and not at all aggressive like some cherry boards and even modern day ones. I'm putting my vote for a still curved mark 2 because the curved profile justification is just too good. I wonder if the PCB's can be made thinner?

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wcass

18 Apr 2019, 21:18

It is not about one or the other, it is about options. Our plan is to design "keyboards" (not "a keyboard").

But some features - such as "controller on pad card" and "bezel-less layout" will be very difficult or impossible with a curved back-plate. It is possible to make a buckling spring HHKB (about 3 mm bezel and only place to put controller is under space bar) but I think it is going to have to be flat.

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depletedvespene

18 Apr 2019, 21:23

wcass wrote:
18 Apr 2019, 21:18
It is not about one or the other, it is about options. Our plan is to design "keyboards" (not "a keyboard").

But some features - such as "controller on pad card" and "bezel-less layout" will be very difficult or impossible with a curved back-plate. It is possible to make a buckling spring HHKB (about 3 mm bezel and only place to put controller is under space bar) but I think it is going to have to be flat.
But... but... my curves? If we're to choose between "no bezel" and "no curve", I'd rather have the former. Pretty please?

(and whose ass do I have to kiss to make a Model M-like 75% ?)

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Techno Trousers
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17 May 2019, 06:01

What are you guys most looking forward to doing when you get your Mara? I want to assemble my own, so I imagine unboxing them from the custom shipping/storage boxes, and laying out all the individual parts.

Then putting together the first SSK: turning the satisfying torx screws, applying the stickers, loading on the special set of key caps I've been saving for it (a combination of XT alphas and SSK mods), and giving it that first test run.

I can't wait to bring that bad boy into work and watching everyone wonder where the racket is coming from. Then inviting them to try it for themselves.

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adamcobabe

17 May 2019, 13:46

Techno Trousers wrote:
17 May 2019, 06:01
What are you guys most looking forward to doing when you get your Mara? I want to assemble my own, so I imagine unboxing them from the custom shipping/storage boxes, and laying out all the individual parts.

Then putting together the first SSK: turning the satisfying torx screws, applying the stickers, loading on the special set of key caps I've been saving for it (a combination of XT alphas and SSK mods), and giving it that first test run.

I can't wait to bring that bad boy into work and watching everyone wonder where the racket is coming from. Then inviting them to try it for themselves.
Both hands above the desk, Techno Trousers. ;)

So I snagged a set of flippers and springs from Ellipse's project on eBay. Probably rejects, but I got them for $0.50, so... If I can find a set of equally cheap barrels, I'll be set. Unlikely but, half way there.

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Techno Trousers
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17 May 2019, 21:50

adamcobabe wrote:
17 May 2019, 13:46

Both hands above the desk, Techno Trousers. ;)
Ha ha! I deserve that, but aren't we all here because we like touching stuff?
adamcobabe wrote:
17 May 2019, 13:46
So I snagged a set of flippers and springs from Ellipse's project on eBay. Probably rejects, but I got them for $0.50, so... If I can find a set of equally cheap barrels, I'll be set. Unlikely but, half way there.
I'm planning to again order two full-sized and two SSK. I believe I'm going to have some switches left over when everything is accounted for. I need to count everything up. I'd be willing to sell extras for a reasonable price.

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