Cherry launches MX Board 8.0 and 9.0

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Zaphir

19 Oct 2016, 12:57

Link: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyb ... 80_and_90/
Source: http://www.igao7.com/news/201610/dOLgbGA8rx4N5euM.html

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WTF are you doing Cherry???
Não gosto de nenhum dos dois mas a MX Board 9.0 é muito azeite ali à mistura...

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Wodan
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19 Oct 2016, 12:58

I'm not up to date with the recent Cherry models but is that the first CHERRY TKL ever?

More info here:
http://www.cherry.de/cid/keyboards_CHER ... rd_80.htm?
http://www.cherry.de/cid/keyboards_CHER ... rd_90.htm?

The Cherry MX 8.0 looks pretty nice actually. The whole board is supposed to weigh almost 1kg.

Findecanor

19 Oct 2016, 13:10

*Looks at calendar*. October 19. Not April 1.. WTF?
*Looks at Cherry's web site... *facepalms*

I see they made the TKL with a bulge similar to the Apple Wireless keyboard and the Lenovo Yoga Tab, the latter having a rotating kickstand in the bugle. But the reason why both of these have a cylindrical bulge is because THAT IS WHERE THE BATTERY GOES because THEY ARE WIRELESS DEVICES. The Cherry MX Board 8.0 is a WIRED KEYBOARD.

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derzemel

19 Oct 2016, 13:17

The TKL has this in it;s description: 10-keyless design gaming keyboard in reusable metallic case.
What does this mean?
Also it has... a very Apple-ish design:

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webwit
Wild Duck

19 Oct 2016, 14:07

What is the top compartment for? :?

citrojohn

19 Oct 2016, 15:54

Wodan wrote: I'm not up to date with the recent Cherry models but is that the first CHERRY TKL ever?
I think the G80-5000's the closest they've done, unless some expert can produce us a 0xxx or 1xxx. Traditionally they've catered to that market with things like the G84s and the G86 SPOS.

Well, I can see there's a market for each of them. They don't attract me much (though the 8's at least clean and simple) but they're not meant to, they're going for the gamer lamp-with-keys market. I wonder if these have RealKey?

Findecanor

19 Oct 2016, 17:00

Neither the web site or the datasheets mention RealKey.

One thing stands out though: The MX Board 9.0 does require two USB ports, which is weird as there is no hub or passthrough listed, nor is the rated power consumption over 500 mA which is the limit for one USB port.

Edit: Both keyboards are added to the Wiki.

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miguelbazil

19 Oct 2016, 21:07

Maybe it's an extra port to connect something, like the mouse or to charge a mobile phone?

Although I'm not a fan of the apple-ish design, it does beat the 9.0 one by far. To me, this is a move to try to bite specific niche markets: apple-looks and razer-looks. And we can't ignore that the "gamer" look has a way bigger market right now. And apple look always had a decent enough following for this to have some payoff. They already covered the more conservative looks, so I can see them going for a more "bold" look to see if the market responds positively.

lepidus

19 Oct 2016, 21:48

Funny, cherry is using cherry profile again. Doubleshots actually, although not as thick as vintage cherry caps.
A shame they chose this ugly font instead of their classic one.

Rimrul

19 Oct 2016, 22:04

When did they stop using Cherry profile?

lepidus

19 Oct 2016, 22:19

Rimrul wrote: When did they stop using Cherry profile?
I'm not really sure, I guess with MX Board 2.0? Since then MX board 3.0 and 6.0 had those low profile keycaps, and 9.0 seems to have them as well.

Rimrul

19 Oct 2016, 22:34

But most other non-ML cherry boards are still Cherry profile.

lepidus

19 Oct 2016, 22:49

Rimrul wrote: But most other non-ML cherry boards are still Cherry profile.
You mean pre-mx board 2.0 designs, or anything new? Did they release any cherry profile keyboard since 2.0?

Rimrul

19 Oct 2016, 23:01

I mean all G81/G83/G86 variants and the G80 variants that aren't labled "MX Board" and new enough to have MX switches. I'm not sure about release dates for those, but they still manufacture a lot of them.

Findecanor

19 Oct 2016, 23:06

lepidus wrote: I'm not really sure, I guess with MX Board 2.0? Since then MX board 3.0 and 6.0 had those low profile keycaps, and 9.0 seems to have them as well.
Actually, "Cherry profile" keycaps are as low as is possible (to the switch) while being as thick and contoured as they are.

MX Board 2.0 and 3.0 keycaps are not contoured and only marginally lower than Cherry profile's home row which they can be only because the profile is flatter.
MX Board 6.0 has a contoured variant of the 2.0/3.0 keycaps, basically.

But, there is a trick: The cases for MX Board 2.0, 3.0 and 6.0 have higher borders around the keys, with the keycap shapes matching that line, thus making the keys lower in profile only relative to the case top - not to the switch.

Because MX Board 8.0 does not have a case top, you can't use that trick and get away with it.

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webwit
Wild Duck

19 Oct 2016, 23:32

Wait, has it really stolen the battery compartment design of the Apple Wireless Keyboard, but is not wireless nor has batteries? :lol:

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seebart
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19 Oct 2016, 23:40

derzemel wrote: The TKL has this in it;s description: 10-keyless design gaming keyboard in reusable metallic case.

What does this mean?
:? Means that if you barf on it you can still use it. :lol:
webwit wrote: What is the top compartment for? :?
Same thing, to barf in. :lol: :P
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Rimrul

19 Oct 2016, 23:44

If you manage to destroy the insides you can order a refill for only 90% of the price of a whole new board.
Only use genuine Cherry refills. Third party refills can dammage your keyboard. Using third party refills voids your warranty.
Edit: You seem to be a bit of a Seebarf today.

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seebart
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19 Oct 2016, 23:47

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Rimrul wrote: Edit: You seem to be a bit of a Seebarf today.
:? :o

No, this is normal meme trolling for me. I guess you could call it my "seebarf" side that comes out when Cherry bring out new keyboards.

:lol:

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Prelim

20 Oct 2016, 00:05

ohhh não!!!!

esta Cherry não aprende :( É triste acabar assim...

Findecanor

20 Oct 2016, 00:52

webwit wrote: Wait, has it really stolen the battery compartment design of the Apple Wireless Keyboard, but is not wireless nor has batteries? :lol:
Yep. It's a USB keyboard according to the web page and data sheet. In all pictures I have seen, the cable looks like it is permanently attached.
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... and the plug also looks a lot like Apple's design:
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And here is a render from Lenovo's site of a Lenovo Yoga Tab tablet, showing off its kickstand. It looks as if Cherry is copying this setup for the keyboard leg:
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miguelbazil

20 Oct 2016, 08:57

Seriously, are they copying that design?

Em bom português: boa merda!

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Wodan
ISO Advocate

20 Oct 2016, 09:01

You mean copyright that design:

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Zaphir

20 Oct 2016, 13:57

I'll be honest and say I think they both look hideous. :P
Cherry please...

citrojohn

20 Oct 2016, 14:57

webwit wrote: Wait, has it really stolen the battery compartment design of the Apple Wireless Keyboard, but is not wireless nor has batteries? :lol:
Can Bluetooth circuitry be housed in an aluminium tube? Perhaps they're going to release a revision with Bluetooth and a battery in the bulge, and maybe a mode switch on the end.
And what will they call it? Well, it's 8 with features added that really should've been there in the first place, so of course it'll be called 8.1. :mrgreen:

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webwit
Wild Duck

20 Oct 2016, 17:33

And then MX Board 10. It's free, but sends all your keystrokes to Cherry.

Rimrul

20 Oct 2016, 18:44

No, it's the MX board X or the MX Board 14.7 rev B.

citrojohn

20 Oct 2016, 19:17

You beat me to it, webwit. Don't forget the compulsory firmware updates and the targeted ads...

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