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The best switch I have ever tried, tactility wise, is the Kaihl Navy Speed. However it's very impractical as the springs are so stiff that my hands get too tired when I type on it after 15 minutes. And I was just using it on the space-bar!

I want to swap the spring out with something lighter (while leaving the click-bar alone).

But how will this affect the tactility?

With a lighter spring and the same click bar thickness, the tactility will increase as the lighter spring will give less support after the tactile event. Box jades have a lighter spring than box navy.

https://chart-studio.plotly.com/~haata/415.embed

https://chart-studio.plotly.com/~haata/417.embed

However, using a lighter spring can sometimes cause the switch to not reset as it cannot overcome the click bar.

I prefixed Kaihl to your thread title as this question presupposes a certain design of switch. There is no clickbar on a lot of switches, and the misleading / unending pedantry which could result from people pointing this out and the whole menagerie of ways the question makes insufficient sense makes even me wince!

I’d defo try a few different spring weights for experiment’s sake. Quite likely you’ll run into that problem though: too light to reliably return to starting position. That reminds me of similar debates about MX ergo clears.

Muirium wrote: 26 May 2022, 22:41 I prefixed Kaihl to your thread title as this question presupposes a certain design of switch. There is no clickbar on a lot of switches, and the misleading / unending pedantry which could result from people pointing this out and the whole menagerie of ways the question makes insufficient sense makes even me wince!

Thanks. Apologies, it was very late and I was extremely tired when I worded it.

xxhellfirexx wrote: 26 May 2022, 05:09 With a lighter spring and the same click bar thickness, the tactility will increase as the lighter spring will give less support after the tactile event. Box jades have a lighter spring than box navy.

However, using a lighter spring can sometimes cause the switch to not reset as it cannot overcome the click bar.

Muirium wrote: 26 May 2022, 22:41 I’d defo try a few different spring weights for experiment’s sake. Quite likely you’ll run into that problem though: too light to reliably return to starting position. That reminds me of similar debates about MX ergo clears.

I may just start by swapping them with springs from some of my other switches and just "hone" in on the lightest I can get without interfering with the start position.

Aye, that's the spirit. A bit of experimenting should establish whether you can hit the sweet spot. This is where a good selection of alternate weighted springs can be very handy; hopefully well labelled!

No worries about the thread title. We all make mistakes (unless we don't have a Backspace key), I pointed out my edit in case you were wondering WTF happened. No, phpBB has not reached self-awareness… yet! Thank goodness.

Hmm... This thread contains the name kaihl (4x) and I thought it was kailh (0x).

http://www.kailh.com/Kaihua_Brand/

OK. I can never remember their heigth and widht.

paperWasp wrote: 28 May 2022, 22:51 Hmm... This thread contains the name kaihl (4x) and I thought it was kailh (0x).

http://www.kailh.com/Kaihua_Brand/

OK. I can never remember their heigth and widht.

Have mercy with English native writers

kbdfr wrote: 29 May 2022, 08:08

paperWasp wrote: 28 May 2022, 22:51 Hmm... This thread contains the name kaihl (4x) and I thought it was kailh (0x).

http://www.kailh.com/Kaihua_Brand/

OK. I can never remember their heigth and widht.

Have mercy with English native writers

Especially those of us posting on the INTERNET!!! Where we spell things however we want without giving a rat's arse!



I did think that the spelling looked wierd after posting, but left it alone. Couldn't quite put my finger on it. So, Tahnks!!!

Non native English speaker, constructing logical argument in their adopted language:



Native English speakers, doing what we do:

Hey, it truly doesn't matter...as long as we're all using a dumbed-down search engine like Google where misspellings actually increase the number of hits.

Dumbed down and worse. When I want goggles, I expressly want goggles, googles!