A Cherry switches collector from China(2)

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UncleFan

07 Feb 2018, 14:45

Hey Guys!This is A Fan.About 1 year ago I released a theme about collecting cherry switches:
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But I realized that my cherry switches were not enough,And I have insufficient knowledge of this area,so that theme had discontinue.I collected the cherry switch for about a year and a half.During this period I have been committed to collecting all kinds of cherry switches.And got the help of keyboard players around the world.Thanks for them here.Recently I carefully recorded every detail of them and listed here.I'm sorry I can't shoot good photos,my photo technology is poor,I had try my best.I can not measure the trigger pressure and spring length of each switch.So I didn't record them.
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Part of the switch name (Such as: C3, D3, E3) is controversial.I use the PANTONE TPX (electronic version) named C3, D3, and E3 (Ultramarine and Classic Blue).
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Their Chinese name does not seem much controversial,So I didn't make any changes to them.I hope they can be so named for the time being before the official name find out.
Here's some explanation of the form:
As for Metal Contacts Shape:
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As for Gold Crosspoint Contact Shape:
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As for KeyStem Number:
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I will try to record the switch that isn't in the wiki.Here are some of Cherry switches that are currently known but I don't have.Their pictures are from the internet,hope I have no infringement.
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In about 1 year and a half, I collected 95 kinds of cherry switches.It made me realize that its total amount would be a huge number.Of course, there are certainly many undiscovered cherry switches.I will continue to work hard to collect and record them.A Fan never give up!If you have the cherry switch that I do not have,Welcome to contact me.I am happy to buy them.You can PM me at DT or email me.I leave my email address at the bottom of my pictures and documents:
Uncle.A.Fan@outlook.com
Finally, 9 days later is the Chinese New Year.I wish everyone Happy Chinese New Year in advance.

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Wodan
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07 Feb 2018, 14:48

Very impressive collection and great work collecting that much data! Thank you for sharing :)

hansichen

07 Feb 2018, 14:54

That's a big and well documented collection, thanks for sharing it!

green-squid

07 Feb 2018, 20:40

You are very dedicated and I love it. I'm glad my switches I sent you are part of the collection! ;) ;)

And happy chinese new year! What is the new year animal this year?

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UncleFan

08 Feb 2018, 01:03

Wodan wrote: Very impressive collection and great work collecting that much data! Thank you for sharing :)
;) ;) ;)

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UncleFan

08 Feb 2018, 01:05

hansichen wrote: That's a big and well documented collection, thanks for sharing it!
:)

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UncleFan

08 Feb 2018, 01:13

green-squid wrote: You are very dedicated and I love it. I'm glad my switches I sent you are part of the collection! ;) ;)
Thank you ;) I really like those kinds of M9.
green-squid wrote: And happy chinese new year! What is the new year animal this year?
Nine days later, Dog will be welcomed.

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Daniel Beardsmore

08 Feb 2018, 01:24

That's a lot of Cherry switches!

Are you certain that your M84 switches are really M84? M81, M82 and M84 refer to the material used in the crosspoint prisms, and I'm not aware that there is any known way to visually differentiate them. We can say "M8 Green" but not "M84 Green" at the moment.

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UncleFan

08 Feb 2018, 01:32

Daniel Beardsmore wrote: That's a lot of Cherry switches!

Are you certain that your M84 switches are really M84? M81, M82 and M84 refer to the material used in the crosspoint prisms, and I'm not aware that there is any known way to visually differentiate them. We can say "M8 Green" but not "M84 Green" at the moment.
Yes. I'm sure it's M84. Because that file "Keymodule M8" had record how to differentiate "M84" and "M81,2" .their crosspoint shape is different.
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Daniel Beardsmore

08 Feb 2018, 01:44

So that is what you're taking the triangles and the circle to mean?

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UncleFan

08 Feb 2018, 01:49

Daniel Beardsmore wrote: So that is what you're taking the triangles and the circle to mean?
Yes.At least in M8, triangles and circles represent different meanings.

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Daniel Beardsmore

08 Feb 2018, 02:12

That's really interesting, because I have M84 switches (M84-0100, from Cherry), and the contacts are circular cross section exactly as you're suggesting! Also shown on the wiki is an M8 switch with clearly triangular section contacts.

So maybe we can't tell M81 and M82 apart, but we can recognise M84.

I need to check my other M8 switches to see what those are.

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UncleFan

08 Feb 2018, 02:17

Daniel Beardsmore wrote: That's really interesting, because I have M84 switches (M84-0100, from Cherry), and the contacts are circular cross section exactly as you're suggesting! Also shown on the wiki is an M8 switch with clearly triangular section contacts.

So maybe we can't tell M81 and M82 apart, but we can recognise M84.

I need to check my other M8 switches to see what those are.
For me, the 4th letter (M8X?-XXXX)is hard to know.

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snuci
Vintage computer guy

08 Feb 2018, 02:35

Daniel Beardsmore wrote: So maybe we can't tell M81 and M82 apart, but we can recognise M84.
Looks like the only difference is their composition. M81 has gold and M82 doesn't?

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UncleFan

08 Feb 2018, 02:40

snuci wrote:
Daniel Beardsmore wrote: So maybe we can't tell M81 and M82 apart, but we can recognise M84.
Looks like the only difference is their composition. M81 has gold and M82 doesn't?
Hope their crosspoint color difference,Otherwise I can not know their composition.

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UncleFan

08 Feb 2018, 04:26

By the way. There is a "support MX" that I don't have. And I heard there is a "Heavy Clear" in G80-9009 and "Soft Black" in G80- 1890 HAURF. Really?

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Daniel Beardsmore

08 Feb 2018, 09:14

What is a "support MX"?

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Wodan
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08 Feb 2018, 09:16

I guess he is talking about a springless MX Black switch that is used as an additional stabilizer for Cherry G80 OEM boards with Big-Ass-Enter keys

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PS: Barbarossa-Schinken4lyphe
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Daniel Beardsmore

08 Feb 2018, 09:20

snuci wrote: Looks like the only difference is their composition. M81 has gold and M82 doesn't?
I guess if we look closely, Gold–Silver–Nickel will be gold-coloured and Silver–Palladium will be silver-coloured … I have various M8 switches now, which I'll have to inspect at some stage.

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UncleFan

08 Feb 2018, 10:08

Wodan wrote: I guess he is talking about a springless MX Black switch that is used as an additional stabilizer for Cherry G80 OEM boards with Big-Ass-Enter keys

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PS: Barbarossa-Schinken4lyphe
yes,this one.

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Wodan
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08 Feb 2018, 10:08

UncleFan wrote: yes,this one.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Should I ever desolder such a board, I will make sure you get that switch.

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UncleFan

08 Feb 2018, 12:37

Wodan wrote:
UncleFan wrote: yes,this one.
:lol: :lol: :lol: Should I ever desolder such a board, I will make sure you get that switch.
WOW! Thank you! But I think I should try to find it in China.This will be more convenient. I will contact you if I can't find it. Thank you again.
By the way, do you have other rare types of Cherry switches that I don't have.

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Daniel Beardsmore

09 Feb 2018, 00:13

This will make things more confusing for you UncleFan:

[wiki]File:Cherry M73-0120.pdf[/wiki]

I just found this — I've had it since 2013 and never uploaded it to the wiki, and I just rediscovered it.

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UncleFan

09 Feb 2018, 04:05

Daniel Beardsmore wrote: This will make things more confusing for you UncleFan:

[wiki]File:Cherry M73-0120.pdf[/wiki]

I just found this — I've had it since 2013 and never uploaded it to the wiki, and I just rediscovered it.
I think (M4/5/6/7)'s keystem is an important info. That's the reason of I record up"-","T","+" down "-","T","+". But I did not find its rules.

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Daniel Beardsmore

09 Feb 2018, 09:41

Maybe one day I will finish off my design diagrams :)

wiki/Cherry_gold_crosspoint#Design

Maybe.

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