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Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 08:54
by LechnerDE
How would the proxy thing work if this is handled through SP's internal system?

Would they actually agree to manually combining all the individual orders from EU? Sounds like a lot of work for them...

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 09:04
by matt3o
LechnerDE wrote:How would the proxy thing work if this is handled through SP's internal system?

Would they actually agree to manually combining all the individual orders from EU? Sounds like a lot of work for them...
You send money to proxy. Proxy makes order :) Then contact SP asking to arrange the cheapest shipping possible (medium or large box I guess)

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 09:06
by LechnerDE
Oh boy, that would be even more work for the proxy than it already is.

It's like handling a GB within a GB.

GroupCeption!! :D

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 09:19
by matt3o
LechnerDE wrote:Oh boy, that would be even more work for the proxy than it already is.

It's like handling a GB within a GB.

GroupCeption!! :D
indeed :(

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 10:17
by Muirium
SP will surely declare orders for the correct value. So my current, hypothetical order of $200 worth of caps would have 20% added on top by customs when it arrived here ($40) plus an evil, opaque and variable fee they and Parcelforce add for processing. I've seen that be as high as £20 before. So call it £40 total on my order, for the privilege of being delayed by a week and denied delivery to my door, as you have to go to a Parcelforce depot to collect it.

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 10:31
by matt3o
I'll order it for you if you want. The fee is %22 + €5.5

I'll ask SP if they can declare a forfeit.

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 10:41
by Muirium
Thanks, but whatever we do it needs to scale. A lot of Europeans are going to be in on this language friendly GB. And importing into many EU countries is just as messy as Britain, I imagine.

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 10:49
by matt3o
Common + Text Mods + Pro kit shipped and delivered at my doorstep is € 90.90. Honestly, for a FULL PBT set with a hell lot of keys... it does seem quite reasonable.

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 11:06
by Muirium
Plus single legends, plus international single legends, plus geekdom, plus Apple kit, plus lost and found, plus numpad for that period key…

OCD never comes cheaply!

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 11:16
by imbattable
If we really get the comma in the numpad set, you can have my period key. Not that I would want to undermine the sales though...

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 11:39
by Muirium
Thanks Batty!

How did DSA Retro work? I imagine Matt had to play the 7bit rôle that time and learned that he never wanted so many caps on his desk ever again!

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 12:07
by matt3o
if 7bit is still available we could send all orders to EU to him I may try to talk to SP about that

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 14:21
by fart_toast
Oh UK import duties.... Fml

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 14:30
by 7bit
matt3o wrote:if 7bit is still available we could send all orders to EU to him I may try to talk to SP about that
Only if someone gets them through customs for me. If they are sorted already, I could really do it, but I don't want to get them from outside EU.
:-)

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 14:35
by Muirium
So, 7bit: when SP ships you Round 5: you have to visit a postal / Der Zoll office and hand over a wad of cash?

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 14:36
by matt3o
yes they are already sorted. You have to collect money add shipping from you to dest and ship. I understand it's an hassle.

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 19:43
by Muirium
What we really need is an American proxy!

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 19:52
by jdeblese
50 people, 5000 keycaps worth $5000, to guestimate. I think we'd be in trouble if we tried to send that as a "gift".

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 19:56
by Muirium
Yeah, it's just a dream…

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 20:04
by jdeblese
On the other hand, if 50 Americans each forwards one "gift" to 50 Europeans...

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 20:11
by Muirium
Let's just all show up at one of HaTaa's keyboard meetups and commence our traditional exchange of gifts!

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 20:21
by squarefrog
jdeblese wrote:On the other hand, if 50 Americans each forwards one "gift" to 50 Europeans...
Spread the love :)

In the UK you still have to pay import tax if the item is valued at £36 (not including shipping) even if it is marked as a gift. That is better than commercial produce though where you have to pay as soon as the value reaches £15 :(

I don't resent paying the 20% import tax, I do resent paying Royal Mail £10 to collect the tax from me. :evil:

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 20:25
by matt3o
like I said, if import tax in UK is really so high, group your order with someone else in EU (maybe Ireland?)

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 21:09
by squarefrog
I tend to just factor it into the price. If we group in the UK then as soon as the package totals >= £135 you have to additionally pay Customs Duty (unless the amount owed is under £9). It's enough to drive you crazy!

At the end of the day the British thing to do is just pay it and grumble about it behind closed doors :)

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 21:20
by Muirium
The key to getting anything in here without getting robbed lies in a little misdirection…

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 21:27
by scottc
matt3o wrote:like I said, if import tax in UK is really so high, group your order with someone else in EU (maybe Ireland?)
Well I don't mind, but I don't know if Irish customs will moan about it. I haven't gotten much in the post from outside of the EU apart from a handful of caps and stabs from WASD. I know that a friend was stung by customs when ordering a WASD V2 though...

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 22:30
by squarefrog
Muirium wrote:The key to getting anything in here without getting robbed lies in a little misdirection…
Misdirection through a nice EU country with low import tax? :lol:

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 22:32
by Muirium
Where it comes from? Nobody knows!

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 23:28
by matt3o
we need someone from Luxembourg I guess

Posted: 19 Mar 2014, 23:45
by squarefrog
That's very specific :)