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Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 19:15
by seebart
//gainsborough wrote:
I think you're right, seebart. The caps look very similar to space-invaders boards.
Almost impossible to tell for sure this way. I don't like these guesses.
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 19:47
by Harshmallow
To Taylor and Gains wondering why he has two extra switches from each, I'm throwing in a guess here, but because of the other items in the listing, such as the key puller and 'Reproduced Instruction manual'. The key puller isn't the typical light blue Northgate one, but I would still bet this is a Gold Label that was bought from Bob Tibbets at northgate-keyboard-repair.com...then probably flipped. I don't see a photo of the rear of the board, but I wouldn't be surprised if it had a tag marking Bob's restoration and that date on it.
I checked with Bob recently and he had a blue alps gold badge that sold about a month ago (His website was updated March 13th, so it probably sold the same day) and that fits into this listing's timeline I think. I'm probably wrong, but it's fun to play detective lol. I think Bob sells his Northgates for $200 to $250.
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 20:16
by //gainsborough
Harshmallow wrote: To Taylor and Gains wondering why he has two extra switches from each, I'm throwing in a guess here, but because of the other items in the listing, such as the key puller and 'Reproduced Instruction manual'. The key puller isn't the typical light blue Northgate one, but I would still bet this is a Gold Label that was bought from Bob Tibbets at northgate-keyboard-repair.com...then probably flipped. I don't see a photo of the rear of the board, but I wouldn't be surprised if it had a tag marking Bob's restoration and that date on it.
I checked with Bob recently and he had a blue alps gold badge that sold about a month ago (His website was updated March 13th, so it probably sold the same day) and that fits into this listing's timeline I think. I'm probably wrong, but it's fun to play detective lol. I think Bob sells his Northgates for $200 to $250.
That is some nice investigation work, man. The theory makes sense to me, very possible that's what was going on.
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 20:23
by dede4metal
seebart wrote: //gainsborough wrote:
I think you're right, seebart. The caps look very similar to space-invaders boards.
Almost impossible to tell for sure this way. I don't like these guesses.
Guys thanks a lot, I did not want to upset you just a bit of teasing, when I get it I will try to post it like I did with the horrible Acer the other day. That Acer went in the bin, this time if I do not like I will not bin it but give it away to someone here that might like it.
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 21:13
by Slom
UnFocused wrote:
There's a very passionate person on /r/retrobattlestations who restores Symbolics computers. I mentioned that to some people, Symbolics are the holy grail in keyboard collecting. He went on a bit of a rant about that:
https://www.reddit.com/r/retrobattlesta ... g/dfwf11m/
That reddit thread is an interesting find in and by itself
warning, a bit of a rambling ahead ...
Lots of stuff that's touching me, like the comment about mirai/nendo/wings3d. I used to play around with with wings a few years ago, was even somewhat active in the wings3d forum on renderosity. Sadly there seem to be no archives around.
The 3620 that is mentioned is probably
this one, still in my bookmarks list in the browser. I had vacation at just that time, I had the money ... but luckily I didn't have a car, nor enough space for a whole vintage computer. This was really tempting back then, I even had looked up the driving time in google maps. Would have been 3 days of driving
What else ...
This little exchange:
[...] It's not like knowledge of Symbolics systems is all that useful in 2017.
thefinder wrote:It's not useful at all!
Well, knowledge about vintage keyboards is useful in as far as that we can actually use these keyboards, not just playing around but really using. Like as a daily driver. I don't see him using his Symbolics machine productively on daily basis.
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 21:31
by seebart
Slom wrote: Well, knowledge about vintage keyboards is useful in as far as that we can actually use these keyboards, not just playing around but really using. Like as a daily driver. I don't see him using his Symbolics machine productively on daily basis.
This springs to mind:
Muirium wrote: See what you've gone and done, MMcM? Ruffled avaricious duck feathers!
photos-f62/80s-keyboard-party-t10963.ht ... 20feathers
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 21:44
by Slom
seebart wrote: Slom wrote: Well, knowledge about vintage keyboards is useful in as far as that we can actually use these keyboards, not just playing around but really using. Like as a daily driver. I don't see him using his Symbolics machine productively on daily basis.
This springs to mind:
Muirium wrote: See what you've gone and done, MMcM? Ruffled avaricious duck feathers!
photos-f62/80s-keyboard-party-t10963.ht ... 20feathers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_McMa ... scientist)
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 21:49
by seebart
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 21:57
by Slom
seebart wrote:
Sure why not.
That was just a service for people wondering how he got so many of these keyboards. Also interesting that one of the Symbolics founders kept "only" the keyboards to use them with modern computers.
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 22:04
by seebart
Slom wrote: That was just a service for people wondering how he got so many of these keyboards. Also interesting that one of the Symbolics founders kept "only" the keyboards to use them with modern computers.
Are providing any other services?
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 22:29
by Slom
seebart wrote: Slom wrote: That was just a service for people wondering how he got so many of these keyboards. Also interesting that one of the Symbolics founders kept "only" the keyboards to use them with modern computers.
Are providing any other services?
Wanna see my naked keyboards?
Posted: 06 Apr 2017, 22:44
by seebart
Posted: 07 Apr 2017, 01:04
by hypkx
Posted: 07 Apr 2017, 03:05
by gnmar2723
Those caps are mx mount right?
Posted: 07 Apr 2017, 19:00
by //gainsborough
Posted: 07 Apr 2017, 21:38
by orihalcon
Snagged the Wang! Have heard that they are pretty high quality. Not really sure what the going rate is for them, but haven't seen one come up in a while that I'd been looking. I think their main claim to fame was that the caps were used on the original Kingsaver?
Posted: 07 Apr 2017, 22:45
by Orpheo
5000 DM! That's about 2500 euros back then!
I bought 3 TA Gabriele 9009 for 10€ each (mx caps) and each cost around 1000€ back then (6000 frs)
Posted: 07 Apr 2017, 23:14
by //gainsborough
orihalcon wrote: Snagged the Wang! Have heard that they are pretty high quality. Not really sure what the going rate is for them, but haven't seen one come up in a while that I'd been looking. I think their main claim to fame was that the caps were used on the original Kingsaver?
I believe that is correct! Plus they have PBT caps and a great look - orange LEDs to boot! Can't go wrong with this board. Now you have to remix the "Fresh Prince of Bel Air" theme song, though.
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 01:26
by gnmar2723
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 18:57
by thebluefox
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 19:40
by Techno Trousers
Ah, yes. The infamous ABS space bar!
Posted: 08 Apr 2017, 19:50
by thebluefox
And the price is "charming" !
Posted: 10 Apr 2017, 14:03
by mana
A set of almost enough spherical alps keycaps (plus some alps skcm cream and green skcl if you are willing to desolder them from the board):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-AP-350-El ... 2467777251
Posted: 10 Apr 2017, 14:36
by dede4metal
Posted: 11 Apr 2017, 01:54
by ramnes
Posted: 11 Apr 2017, 06:23
by //gainsborough
$200 BIN gold label omnikey with blue alps
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Gold-La ... SwTM5Y7E6V
hurry though, probably gone in the next hour I'm guessing.
Posted: 11 Apr 2017, 07:31
by ohaimark
Bought it. I'm going to be selling a bunch of keyboards soon and I couldn't resist replacing my current Blue Alps keyboard with an Omnikey.
Posted: 11 Apr 2017, 07:35
by //gainsborough
ohaimark wrote: Bought it. I'm going to be selling a bunch of keyboards soon and I couldn't resist replacing my current Blue Alps keyboard with an Omnikey.
=)
When you get it you should comment on its condition! It looked pretty clean!
edit: out of curiosity, what is the blue alps board you are replacing?
Posted: 11 Apr 2017, 07:54
by ohaimark
An OEMMAX MCK-101.
Posted: 11 Apr 2017, 07:59
by //gainsborough
ohaimark wrote: An OEMMAX MCK-101.
Oh nice! I'd say the omnikey is an upgrade! Bigger backspace and amazing logo!
