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Posted: 07 Aug 2017, 07:26
by seebart
Elrick wrote:
wobbled wrote: The price is fucking ridiculous, more pricks trying desperately to squeeze as much money out of people as they possibly can.
Ahhh Wobbled, welcome to Ebay where being 'fleeced' is now becoming the normal experience.

That is why I have to refer to them as "Flebay", the only CORRECT description to apply.
That is why I refer to ebay as GREED_bay these days. :x :roll:

Posted: 07 Aug 2017, 10:59
by chip chop
TBF its really the sellers who are ripped off, fees can often reach around 20% of the hammer price.

Posted: 07 Aug 2017, 11:47
by kbdfr
chip chop wrote: TBF its really the sellers who are ripped off, fees can often reach around 20% of the hammer price.
20%? I wonder which special features you have to book to be charged so much.

On the other hand, you pay when riding a bus or using your phone,
and seemingly free services like Facebook or Twitter use your data as a payment.
So paying for eBay is nothing I would rant about.

Of course eBay charges rather high fees, taking advantage of their monopole situation,
but the monopole situation also means sellers have much better chances of selling their stuff
than if there were several similar sites competing on a comparable level.

Posted: 07 Aug 2017, 18:35
by chip chop
It was something around 20% when you took into account paypal fees and not starting a auction at 0.99. But, as I say it is the seller that gets ripped off not the buyer. We can all choose not to buy.

Posted: 07 Aug 2017, 20:16
by Halvar
We can all choose to sell on the Deskthority marketplace ... 8-)

Posted: 07 Aug 2017, 21:30
by Norman_
kbdfr wrote:
chip chop wrote: TBF its really the sellers who are ripped off, fees can often reach around 20% of the hammer price.
20%? I wonder which special features you have to book to be charged so much.

On the other hand, you pay when riding a bus or using your phone,
and seemingly free services like Facebook or Twitter use your data as a payment.
So paying for eBay is nothing I would rant about.

Of course eBay charges rather high fees, taking advantage of their monopole situation,
but the monopole situation also means sellers have much better chances of selling their stuff
than if there were several similar sites competing on a comparable level.
It's at least 13% no matter what.

Ebay takes at least 10% and paypal takes 3%

Posted: 07 Aug 2017, 21:59
by chip chop
I had the number of 18% in the back of my mind, this was way back when, 13% sounds more like it thinking back. Haven't sold on ebay for a long time. Anyway, off topic.... srry.

Posted: 08 Aug 2017, 05:48
by Harshmallow
Huh - that beamspring was made in Armonk too, not in Canada at the old Toronto plant...maybe the later ones were made in NY, or just certain models.

Posted: 08 Aug 2017, 21:09
by Wanderer
On the ebay note, eBay takes 10% straight away, including the cost of postage jacking postage prices up, PayPal charge at least 3%, possibly more if the payment is from a different currency, plus a business seller has to pay at a minimum £25 a month for a basic shop on eBay, giving only buy it now listings, and have to pay for each auction listing.

It's only natural that sellers will jack prices up to cover fees, often with a best offer for what they think would be acceptable.

TLDR: eBay treats sellers like dirt, which lead to sellers overcharging, and buyers thinking sellers are jerks.

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 01:10
by fohat
Wanderer wrote:
TLDR: eBay treats sellers like dirt, which lead to sellers overcharging, and buyers thinking sellers are jerks.
I stand behind my dissertation from years ago:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51 ... msg1132476

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 01:37
by chip chop
fohat wrote:
Wanderer wrote:
TLDR: eBay treats sellers like dirt, which lead to sellers overcharging, and buyers thinking sellers are jerks.
I stand behind my dissertation from years ago:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51 ... msg1132476
100% agree.

Speaking of ebay... came across this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Keyboard-Home ... 0167.m2940

Looks like a waffle base, DEC VT-100 / Hi Tek Homebrew 60% board, handwired. Weird layout maybe a morse board looking at what the sellers other lots are.

P.S. Anybody who likes Jimmy Carter is alright in my book, a great man.

Posted: 09 Aug 2017, 18:22
by Wanderer
fohat wrote:
Wanderer wrote:
TLDR: eBay treats sellers like dirt, which lead to sellers overcharging, and buyers thinking sellers are jerks.
I stand behind my dissertation from years ago:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=51 ... msg1132476
Other than eBay's changes (to charges) over the years, and business seller specific extra fees, looks like you nailed it in one ;)

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 18:40
by JP!
Another Beam Spring. Priced really high. That rust though :shock:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-564 ... SwP0ZZjHPS

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 19:26
by mike52787
JP! wrote: Another Beam Spring. Priced really high. That rust though :shock:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-564 ... SwP0ZZjHPS
oh my, that plate is fucked. too bad

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 20:06
by JP!
mike52787 wrote:
JP! wrote: Another Beam Spring. Priced really high. That rust though :shock:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-564 ... SwP0ZZjHPS
oh my, that plate is fucked. too bad
It's still restorable, but at this price I wouldn't touch it.

This seller sold another for $125 today.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-5640534-BEA ... 7675.l2557

Oh and there was one before that which was priced very high then sold for $299.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-564 ... SwjTlZhgeh

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 21:27
by y11971alex
http://www.ebay.com/itm/282605980089
Here's a 3101 keyboard already repainted, for $699.99

Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 21:32
by y11971alex
Thinkpads new in box for 33% off.

Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 00:31
by JP!
Vintage Micro Switch Catalog No.54SW1-4  DATE 7112
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-MICRO-S ... SwWgxZc70t

Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 01:51
by gnmar2723
This looks interesting (well, the caps at least...)

Any more info on it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/63-Key-ASCii-Me ... 1931731788

Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 10:17
by chip chop
gnmar2723 wrote: This looks interesting (well, the caps at least...)

Any more info on it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/63-Key-ASCii-Me ... 1931731788
Same as a 60% (what I thought was a homebrew / handwired board) I posted a couple of days ago, thought it was a cutdown.

By the looks of it is's either a Stackpole or Hi-Tek Linear Switch. It would need wiring & a controler I guess.

Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 10:34
by seebart
gnmar2723 wrote: This looks interesting (well, the caps at least...)

Any more info on it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/63-Key-ASCii-Me ... 1931731788
That's a Hi-TEK waffle board those were quite common back in the day. I've never seen one with the original box though. :shock:
JP! wrote: Vintage Micro Switch Catalog No.54SW1-4 DATE 7112
Nice SW series dual magnet Hall Effect, I think slom owns a very similair one? If only that had a case.

Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 17:15
by nsmechkb
seebart wrote:
gnmar2723 wrote: This looks interesting (well, the caps at least...)

Any more info on it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/63-Key-ASCii-Me ... 1931731788
That's a Hi-TEK waffle board those were quite common back in the day. I've never seen one with the original box though. :shock:
JP! wrote: Vintage Micro Switch Catalog No.54SW1-4 DATE 7112
Nice SW series dual magnet Hall Effect, I think slom owns a very similair one? If only that had a case.
I believe it does? Image

Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 17:59
by JP!
Interesting USDATA keyboard

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flexus-keyboard ... 1438.l2649
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Posted: 11 Aug 2017, 23:45
by emdude
JP! wrote: This seller sold another for $125 today.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-5640534-BEA ... 2606102560
I bought this one. I might post photos of the damage assessment, I'm sure its condition rivals that of the keyboards from the Rustmaster!

After my initial excitement wore off, I had to wonder.. With the difference in price and the emphasis on the "AS IS ~ AS FOUND FOR PARTS OR REPAIR ONLY", I suspect I'll be in for a big surprise (well, more than what is immediately obvious). :twisted:

I'll probably look into getting the case and maybe the plate powder coated..
y11971alex wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/282605980089
Here's a 3101 keyboard already repainted, for $699.99
This one has since been discounted to $399.99.

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 02:19
by ryvnf

Posted: 12 Aug 2017, 05:19
by mike52787
ryvnf wrote: NEC clicky blue oval switch

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-NEC-APC ... SwVbtZjMAZ
If you want this, PM me. its my listing.

Posted: 13 Aug 2017, 21:47
by Slom

Posted: 14 Aug 2017, 01:50
by xxhellfirexx

Posted: 14 Aug 2017, 02:47
by orihalcon
Omnikey Evolution. Use the buy it now as I'm sure it would go for more at auction:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322651932794

Posted: 14 Aug 2017, 10:14
by Halvar
Slom, thanks for posting! Grabbed one of the Dietz boards. I will report on the switches as soon as I get it. Probably Cherry I'd guess.