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Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 10:43
by mikelanding
matt3o wrote:mikelanding wrote:Just an opinion.
If I buying this for my Ergodox, I will be pissed to paid the extra money for additional keys that I not gonna use like DCS Spacebar, unbranded win keys, Lime keys.
The TKL + Ergodox (2X and 1.5X )are enough to cover.
I understand your point and can relate to it, but think of this: the guy who wants -say- the unbranded win keys doesn't care about Ergodox but is helping you reducing the price of the whole kit. The price difference from 25 and 50 pieces is huge and if we can really meet the 50 tier you may very likely end up handing less money OR anyway we all gathered together to have everyone spending a little less. Karma credit, pal

But mixing Spacebars to Ergodox kit is not really appropriate. Dont you think? There is absolutely no use of spacebar on Ergodox.
Also those who want to buy that particular size of spacebar will also not happy to pay the extra keys that they dont need.
I dont mind paying the extra couple of spacebar at all. But it just seem inappropriate for spacebar to mix with Ergodox (Primary)
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 10:52
by matt3o
in the end I will do what the community asks.
the kits are still a work in progress, I don't want to make 100 kits, it would be a pain to manage.
I agree on one point though... the spacebars should probably go in the mods kit
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 10:59
by mikelanding
Great. I will definitely get the TKL and Extra kit.
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 11:04
by BimboBB
1. one question re "capslock replacement"....wouldnt it be necessary to include 1.5 and 1.25 Capslock same time. Assuming capslock replacement means switching Capslock with Ctrl?
2. for what exactly is this 4.5 spacebar?
3. Would it be possible to include a 4.0 spacebar, 1.0 Shift and 1.0 Backspace as well? (Hyper Layouts)
4. How about a green lime ISO return?
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 11:11
by matt3o
BimboBB wrote:1. one question re "capslock replacement"....wouldnt it be necessary to include 1.5 and 1.25 Capslock same time. Assuming capslock replacement means switching Capslock with Ctrl?
oh my, you are right. A lot of hassle for just 1 key
BimboBB wrote:2. for what exactly is this 4.5 spacebar?
Don't ask

only G80-1800 I believe
BimboBB wrote:3. Would it be possible to include a 4.0 spacebar, 1.0 Shift and 1.0 Backspace as well? (Hyper Layouts)
4.0 spacebar doesn't exist I'm afraid. minimum is 4.5
BimboBB wrote:4. How about a green lime ISO return?
absolutely
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 11:13
by matt3o
hold on G80-1800 is not 4.5 I've been wrongly informed. It's 4.4-something inches not 4.5 units. Sorry gotta change that
Re: [IC] DSA spherical
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 11:14
by Halverson
Was there any discussion or thoughts on adding a DT/GH caps? Perhaps in lime green.
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 11:20
by matt3o
yeah I suggested them, but they are custom keys, they would make the whole more expensive, but definitely worth asking a quote, anyway I need permission to use both
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 11:28
by dirge
Halverson wrote:Was there any discussion or thoughts on adding a DT/GH caps? Perhaps in lime green.
Don't we have enough of them already!

Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 11:34
by matt3o
I agree, it would be nice to have a second custom key though... Atari logo maybe

Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 11:46
by tjweir
The Atari logo would be fun.
Re: [IC] DSA spherical
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 12:07
by Halverson
dirge wrote:Halverson wrote:Was there any discussion or thoughts on adding a DT/GH caps? Perhaps in lime green.
Don't we have enough of them already!

My collection started, it can only grow and expand!

Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 12:12
by 7bit
They only have 6 and 8 units space bars,
so no 4 units will be there.
G80-1800: you need to ask if the 6 units fits (mount-wise).
wiki/Space#6units
They only have 6 and 8 units space bars,
so no 4 units will be there.
G80-1800: you need to ask if the 6 units fits (mount-wise).
wiki/Space#6units
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 12:21
by matt3o
we are adding DCS spacebars. Anyway no 4u in DCS family so...
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 12:23
by 7bit
matt3o wrote:we are adding DCS spacebars. Anyway no 4u in DCS family so...
I'm fine with the many space bars in the ErgoDox kit. But the 6 units would be interesting You should also ask if they can make it 6.25 units compatible. There would only be a barely noticable 1/8 units missing left and right.
edit:
Might not work, because the mounts are too far at the sides:

Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 12:28
by matt3o
you mean that 6u has weird stems position?
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 12:40
by matt3o
where can I find an SVG version of the mods icons?
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 12:44
by 7bit
matt3o wrote:where can I find an SVG version of the mods icons?
Ask SP. They did not accept mine, so they made them themselves.
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 12:47
by matt3o
well it's just for presentetional purposes (so people stop saying "nice but I want symbols")

Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 12:51
by 7bit
OK, I send you the whole lot ....
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 12:56
by matt3o
thank you sir
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 13:41
by matt3o
can we call this final?

Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 14:24
by hoggy
Looking smart. I'm in for some of that.
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 14:32
by dirge
Isn't there normally a Tsangan kit? (I can't remember what's normally included)
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 14:34
by Gilgam
Nice
i would love a green caps lock please

Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 14:48
by 7bit
There are a lot of keys missing!

Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 14:50
by HzFaq
dirge wrote:Isn't there normally a Tsangan kit? (I can't remember what's normally included)
Tsangan kit isn't required as it's already part of the mod kit 3 set as far as I can see (7unit space bar, 1.5 unit mods and random single unit keys).
Also registering interest, love the work you're putting in matt3o/everyone else.
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 14:54
by matt3o
Gilgam wrote:Nice
i would love a green caps lock please

we would need 1 capslock and 3 controls...
7bit wrote:There are a lot of keys missing!

mmmmh your list of missing keys isn't completely correct. In the numpad we already have
- 1u 0
- 1u + (actually 2)
what are all those keys for?
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 15:50
by zulios
How many mounts will the 2 units keys have ? I'm curious to know if they would fit a tipro.
Posted: 31 Jan 2013, 16:12
by 7bit
OK, they are already there. But the other keys!!!
They are necessary for Hyper/7bit-layouts. & is very useful on G80-2100 and firends, because there are 2 one unit keys instead of the vertical + key.
zulios wrote:How many mounts will the 2 units keys have ? I'm curious to know if they would fit a tipro.
Yes, and we need 2 units keys to fit on top of 2 key caps!