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Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 17:03
by hellothere
IBM 5150 empty box. $100 + $20 shipping.
It's far more common to see iMac or iPad empty boxes for sale. I've got a few U-Haul boxes I could sell ...
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 15 Jan 2021, 17:12
by hellothere
Currently, that's $561. Only $140 per board. Shipping's $91 for expedited and $58 for economy. That's not bad. Cords are cut, though.
Is it bad that I'm estimating costs to repair in my head, especially considering I just bought a blue Alps?
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 09:25
by Redmaus
hellothere wrote: 15 Jan 2021, 17:12
Currently, that's $561. Only $140 per board. Shipping's $91 for expedited and $58 for economy. That's not bad. Cords are cut, though.
Is it bad that I'm estimating costs to repair in my head, especially considering I just bought a blue Alps?
If you wanted to buy these in order to profit any price below $1000 would be pretty dang good honestly. With replacement cables(which I have), ANSI mod, and deep clean they could probably each sell for $400 each which would be $600 profit. Just my take anyway.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 13:14
by webwit
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 16 Jan 2021, 23:56
by Continental 0p
Model M with Blue Alps - $300 BIN
https://www.ebay.com/c/901800782
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 17 Jan 2021, 05:15
by Polecat
hellothere wrote: 14 Jan 2021, 21:53
I've bought stuff from this guy. He's a professor out of New Mexico. He sells uranium and geiger counters, too. He'd probably be an interesting person to sit down and talk with.
He may still have lots of 10 Alps switches for around $10 + shipping, and you only pay that one shipping charge for however many switches you get. That's good. What's bad is that he ships whatever switches of about the same color that's lying around. I think my last order for cream damped had 6 cream damped, a couple pine white, and a couple bamboo white. The order I had before that was also for cream damped and I had about the same spread of switches. When I told him about it through ebay, he responded by saying (direct quote; I have it in my ebay mail): "In the future, I suggest that you buy the ALPS keyswitches from other sellers, not from me. At age <deleted>, any sensitivity to color is likely for me to get worse, not better."
Anyhow, he's also selling
"Canada Red Clone" switches.
That'd be your Matias Quiet Linear.
EDIT: I checked that "Canada Blue" picture on my big monitor. The switches say "Matias" right on the front of them.
I just bought a Monterey case and PC board from this guy. Good thing I only wanted the case, because at least twenty pads were completely torn off the PC board in removing the switches (which he's selling separately). For a guy who writes up technical papers on unsoldering Alps switches (and which he actually included with the sale) he sure doesn't know what he's doing. At least I can say that I own actual examples of rare Canada Red and Canada Blue switches. (yes, he also included those!)
Caveat emptor!
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 17 Jan 2021, 20:00
by MMcM
John Doe wrote: 05 Jan 2021, 00:39
I have a hp 46010a with fls switches, but never came across 46020a, mind to share a photo of the kbd showing this?
HP-46010A
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- HP-46010A-bottom.jpg (481.12 KiB) Viewed 7907 times
HP-46020A
- HP-46020A-top.jpg (427.8 KiB) Viewed 7907 times
- HP-46020A-bottom.jpg (484.11 KiB) Viewed 7907 times
In the case, they are practically indistinguishable, save for the connector(s).
♪ From Zanzibar to Berkeley Square.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 18 Jan 2021, 04:49
by John Doe
MMcM wrote: 17 Jan 2021, 20:00
In the case, they are practically indistinguishable, save for the connector(s).
Thanks for the pics, that helped me confirm something, I'll keep eyes on the 020 version on the market if possible.
btw, do you think 010&020 are using the same matrix design exactly?
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 18 Jan 2021, 15:59
by digital_matthew
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 19 Jan 2021, 06:26
by John Doe
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Keyboa ... 890.l49292
I would have bought this if I could hold myself not buying lot of stuff in last weeks, but this is cool worth sharing i think.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 19 Jan 2021, 16:05
by kevinhou
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 19 Jan 2021, 20:47
by cakeanalytics
https://www.ebay.com/itm/313386420392
Blue alps model m, terrible condition
Might be worth it if you have replacement caps
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 00:27
by Weezer
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265016953511
Probably one of the best condition 5251s I've seen and it comes with a set of blue selectric key caps
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 03:05
by Polecat
Polecat wrote: 17 Jan 2021, 05:15
I just bought a Monterey case and PC board from this guy. Good thing I only wanted the case, because at least twenty pads were completely torn off the PC board in removing the switches (which he's selling separately). For a guy who writes up technical papers on unsoldering Alps switches (and which he actually included with the sale) he sure doesn't know what he's doing. At least I can say that I own actual examples of rare Canada Red and Canada Blue switches. (yes, he also included those!)
Caveat emptor!
Well, from followup correspondence with the "professor" you'll all be happy to know this about the "Canada Blue" switches:
"I painted BlUE onto the Canada white switch; there are at least four ALPS or clones with white sliders; the "Canada white" is a perfect copy of the genuine Blue Alps."
Sure glad we don't have to find the real thing or attempt to make reproductions now.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 03:38
by Redmaus
Went for $2550, not surprised. Like weezer said its the best condition I've seen and comes with some gorgeous keycaps to boot.
I just got a 5251 in mint condition, but it clearly needs new foam because the switches wobble like crazy. Also does anyone know how to lighten a beamspring spacebar? The 5251 spacebar is twice as heavy as the one on my 3276.
Polecat wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 03:05
Well, from followup correspondence with the "professor" you'll all be happy to know this about the "Canada Blue" switches:
"I painted BlUE onto the Canada white switch; there are at least four ALPS or clones with white sliders; the "Canada white" is a perfect copy of the genuine Blue Alps."
Sure glad we don't have to find the real thing or attempt to make reproductions now.
Sooo he says it's blue alps but still has the matias simplified switchplate? LOL
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 04:28
by Polecat
Redmaus wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 03:38
Sooo he says it's blue alps but still has the matias simplified switchplate? LOL
It's the
painting of the slider blue that makes the difference. Actually that's not too far off from my own claim that only the slider color makes blue Alps switches more valuable than early white Alps. But still...
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 05:07
by Continental 0p
Based off of the red and blue keycaps, this is the Micro Switch SW version instead of beam springs.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 05:59
by Weezer
Redmaus wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 03:38
Also does anyone know how to lighten a beamspring spacebar? The 5251 spacebar is twice as heavy as the one on my 3276.
The most facile method is to remove the lefthand spring. The key technically does not need this spring to function as intended. A more pleasing and calculated solution would be to fabricate two springs with a sum resistive force equaling one stock IBM spring. Outside of that, you'd likely have to get crazy with 3D printing keys and PCB redesign.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 08:27
by uncletobai
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 16:26
by Jan Pospisil
A terminal board with, I think, white space invaders. For Czech/Slovak-adjacent users.
https://aukro.cz/stara-klavesnice-pro-s ... 6981783905
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 20 Jan 2021, 18:43
by xxhellfirexx
Weezer wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 05:59
Redmaus wrote: 20 Jan 2021, 03:38
Also does anyone know how to lighten a beamspring spacebar? The 5251 spacebar is twice as heavy as the one on my 3276.
The most facile method is to remove the lefthand spring. The key technically does not need this spring to function as intended. A more pleasing and calculated solution would be to fabricate two springs with a sum resistive force equaling one stock IBM spring. Outside of that, you'd likely have to get crazy with 3D printing keys and PCB redesign.
Or just buy 2 replacement switch modules from Orihalcon.
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/IBM-BEAMSPRING- ... SwsU5ZxwpL
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 01:36
by Weezer
Wouldn't the replacement modules have the same or greater resistance as the ones he has in the keyboard?
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 21 Jan 2021, 05:27
by xxhellfirexx
Weezer wrote: 21 Jan 2021, 01:36
Wouldn't the replacement modules have the same or greater resistance as the ones he has in the keyboard?
I have bought replacement modules from Orihalcon and they are weighted like the regular switches.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 07:29
by xxhellfirexx
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 08:23
by vdublove37
Oh sweet, a FLS board... in great condition... easily converted... oh. They're asking $420
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 14:08
by raoulduke-esq
Same board (serial), same location, eBay tax now included and then some... guessing it wasn't actually sold here last summer then. Anyone feel like posting a review to YouTube saying FLS sucks so we can bring the price back down?
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 14:38
by kbdfr
raoulduke-esq wrote: 22 Jan 2021, 14:08[…] Anyone feel like posting a review to YouTube saying FLS sucks so we can bring the price back down?
What about Chy…
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 22 Jan 2021, 16:42
by zrrion
I've got the voice for it, someone start sending me keyboards and I'll start making videos about how bad they are
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 12:23
by forter4
Something odd going on, or maybe that's how Yahoo Japan Auctions works. But the closing times for these auctions keeps getting pushed back
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 23 Jan 2021, 12:53
by Reshala
forter4 wrote: 23 Jan 2021, 12:23
Something odd going on, or maybe that's how Yahoo Japan Auctions works. But the closing times for these auctions keeps getting pushed back
Nah, it's how yahoo works, like if you place a bid in the last three minutes the ending time will be refreshed to 8 minutes later. I suspect some dealer is trying to snug all of those and resell them to redditards lel
