Page 2 of 10

Posted: 25 Jun 2012, 21:41
by off
002 wrote:This is the more accurate diagram representing the variable force:
So that means the Enter etc keys are not weighted less? Just slightly so due to the keycap being heavier? Seeing how those are the farthest reaches for your pinky, that's... weird, theoretically.

Posted: 25 Jun 2012, 23:21
by 002
I have my force gauge - it's extremely sensitive but I guess I should have expected that.
Since I've got that I've realised how difficult it is to get accurate measurements without some sort of stand to control the downward pressure but I will try my best this weekend to come up with a solution

@off - None of the modifiers have altered weights as far as I know and I guess they don't really need them because they're not generally pressed often, but I see your point. It certainly would not have hurt to make them lighter too.

Posted: 26 Jun 2012, 09:47
by Trent
If you ever plan to offer this to the USA, I'm in. Shipping is an arm and a leg tho.

Posted: 26 Jun 2012, 16:21
by off
Don't you have like some sort of dremel stand you could mcgyver into being the fix?

Posted: 26 Jun 2012, 16:26
by ripster
002 wrote:I have my force gauge - it's extremely sensitive but I guess I should have expected that.
Since I've got that I've realised how difficult it is to get accurate measurements without some sort of stand to control the downward pressure but I will try my best this weekend to come up with a solution

@off - None of the modifiers have altered weights as far as I know and I guess they don't really need them because they're not generally pressed often, but I see your point. It certainly would not have hurt to make them lighter too.
I herd some people use nickels to get a rough measurement.

http://www.overclock.net/t/881812/tell- ... t_16886472

Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 01:20
by 002
The key word is 'rough'.
I want accurate measurements and I don't trust myself with coins and a shitty set of kitchen scales.

Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 04:27
by ripster

Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 05:59
by 002
Thanks.
I have an Imada DPS-1 which is likely a fraction of the cost of that thing you linked (which looks pretty badass)

Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 11:46
by 002
Well, for those curious, here are the results:
Image

Some notes on my method:
Realforce 104 straight out of the box and plugged into my PC.
I set the force gauge to freeze on the peak measurement and zero'd it after each test.
I took extra care to position the test rod in the centre of the keycap and slowly pressed the key down until it actuated and the keypress was registered (note: not bottoming it out)

I actually tested each key probably about 6 or 7 times before doing the three consecutive measurements - I noticed that not hitting the key right in the centre really varies the required force which I found interesting. Also of obvious note is that the keys int he centre appear to be closer to 50g than the spec'ed 45g.

I shall send the keyboard to dirge hopefully next week - looking forward to hearing your opinions :)

Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 12:02
by Icarium
Cool. What did this toy cost you? :)

Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 12:16
by 002
$150 but I got lucky on an eBay auction :)
The lower denomination gauges (250g, 500g and 1kg) are somewhat more difficult to find, but they are out there.

Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 12:24
by off
Would you look at that J!

Posted: 27 Jun 2012, 12:26
by 002
Haha yeah I gotta admit I laughed when that happened :D

Posted: 01 Jul 2012, 16:46
by RC-1140
It might be necessary for me to go a few steps down on the list, as I will be away from 23rd July to 5th August. If the keyboard arrived in this time my mother could forward it, but I couldn't test it.

Posted: 02 Jul 2012, 08:39
by 002
Moved you down two spots.
I just sent the board too. It fit perfectly in a DELL keyboard box which should mean it's $25 value shouldn't raise many eyebrows at customs, but I doubt the Topre box would have either.

Posted: 04 Jul 2012, 10:32
by Lethal Squirrel
Is it too late to put me on the list? :D

Posted: 04 Jul 2012, 10:38
by dirge
Looking forward to getting to try this :)

Posted: 04 Jul 2012, 10:56
by 002
It'll probably arrive next week I'm guessing.
Lethal if you meet the requirements I can add you to the list - what country are you in?

Posted: 04 Jul 2012, 21:19
by Ascaii
I would like to join this if possible. I have tried the 55g switch tester from MrInterface, but would love to be able to try a variable weight Topre. I will be out of town from the 19th of August to the first of September, so I would opt for a very early or later slot.

Posted: 04 Jul 2012, 23:25
by 002
No problem - I've added you to to the later slot. We can adjust as necessary if you're away when your turn comes around.
Lethal Squirrel still haven't heard from you where you are either :)

Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 10:58
by hamza_tm
ADD MEEEEEE

Sorry only just saw this, in the UK :)

Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 13:02
by 002
Added. I would hope that the board will be arriving soon actually. Possibly this week. :)

Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 14:12
by dirge
Hope so :) I'm working all weekend :( san migration :'(

Posted: 10 Jul 2012, 21:19
by cinch
now i just need 10 posts... joined 2 days ago :P

can't miss out on this. i'm trying to decide between topre 45g and variable, so this will be a big help.

Posted: 15 Jul 2012, 01:55
by rhizo
002 wrote:Added. I would hope that the board will be arriving soon actually. Possibly this week. :)
is it too late to apply? im in the uk :)

Posted: 15 Jul 2012, 20:18
by cinch
i'd like to signup to the list. location: Vienna, Austria.

Posted: 15 Jul 2012, 23:58
by 002
I'll add you guys to the list but I'm slightly adjusting one rule for future applicants.
What I had originally intended was that you had 10 posts prior to my initial post but I'll honour it anyway.

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 12:38
by rhizo
I'm not sure if this is possible, but i will be on holiday from the 14th of september to the 28th, so would it be possible to move up 1-2 spaces?

Thanks,

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 12:48
by 002
If there are no objections from the other guys in the UK, I don't mind.

Posted: 16 Jul 2012, 12:59
by rhizo
002 wrote:If there are no objections from the other guys in the UK, I don't mind.
I pme'd #3 on the list so i'll wait for a response. :)

Oh, and any idea on when it's going to begin the tour? Or if it's been begun already? haha