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The "Original" Cherry Keyboard Switch?

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 22:59
by HaaTa
So, I've known about this switch for a while, but I've finally gotten my hands on some :mrgreen:

Behold, snap-action (clicky) keyboard switches from 1959! I even have the model number 01APBSW 8-)

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/triplehaa ... 7024558289

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https://www.google.com/patents/US3056002


Not designed by Walter Cherry Jr. but the design is likely derived from a similar earlier switch. Like this one from 1955.
https://www.google.com/patents/US2758171

I don't have the switches in an actual keyboard, but I do have a keyboard with very similar switches.
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/triplehaa ... 9413331943

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 23:30
by Redmaus
Whoa, groovy!

I wonder what these sound like...

Don't know why this doesn't have more replies, I love that diagram.

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 23:53
by klikkyklik
Where in the HELL did you find that...

Very cool!

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 23:55
by Engicoder
This kind of reminds me of that Univac 1710 board that you had that used microswitches.

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 00:06
by chzel
Ha! Nice find!
They look like tiny Morse keyers!
klikkyklik wrote: Where in the HELL did you find that...
If it is obscure and keyboard related, you can count on HaaTa to have it!

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 00:59
by HaaTa
I'll take a video once I get back from work. It has a pleasant click.

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 01:26
by Muirium
Those sliders look admirably daft! Was this switch ever really intended for use in a keyboard, or did they repurpose something they already had?

Oh, and what's the travel and the feel like?

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 01:30
by HaaTa
Those sliders...are awful. But the switch mechanism is quite nice. Very smooth, lightly tactile.

The enhancements to this switch were very likely for keyboard-like devices (this is 1959 remember). Earlier variants of the switch were probably just general purpose snap action switches. It wasn't till a bit later that snap-in/plate mount switches started to become the norm (likely due to manufacturing limitations).

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 01:42
by Muirium
Indeed. 1959 is positively prehistoric! Even the IBM Selectric was a few years in the future, back then. Only makes sense these switches had other uses in mind as well.

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 05:29
by HaaTa

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 00:40
by vivalarevolución
Gorgeous.

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 00:50
by klikkyklik
That is super cool. Thanks for posting that vid! I bet a real board of those would sure be fun to type on.

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 00:53
by Muirium
Nice sound. Very pure. Does it feel a bit like a beamspring at all, by chance? The lateral spring reminds me of that, and beamsprings are awesome with their flawless force curve.

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 01:36
by HaaTa
They a bit similar to beam springs, but not quite.

There's not as much tactility, but because is a spring expansion, rather than compression the friction is lower.
I think I have about 3 keyboards now with these types of switches (I don't think they are Cherry's version though). 2 of them will be at the Bay Area keyboard meetup on Saturday :D

Once I get my force gauge all put together, I'll make sure to get some force curves.

Posted: 20 Aug 2015, 15:06
by XMIT
What is the debouncing time required for these? They look ... really bouncy.

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 00:39
by Prelim
it just seems like...

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Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 02:05
by Touch_It
That has a very satisfying sounding ting to it.

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 02:17
by webwit
Did someone add it to the wiki yet??? :evil: *Beardsmore mode*

Re: The "Original" Cherry Keyboard Switch?

Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 09:21
by seebart
Impressive. Yes webwit, those need to be in our wiki. Pure keyboard history.

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 08:50
by terrycherry
Awesome.I love this click sound!
Is it has the magnet inside?

Re: The "Original" Cherry Keyboard Switch?

Posted: 11 Jan 2021, 08:42
by DrivenKeys
I'm just bringing this back from the dead, because I stumbled on one of these on ebay, and I think it's just about the coolest keyboard collectible I've ever bought. It makes a great desk fidget thingy, I highly recommend it.