Alps Appreciation

Fod

27 Nov 2019, 16:21

Huh. Never knew Video-writers could come with other alps switches.

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ppCircle

27 Nov 2019, 16:38

Fod wrote:
27 Nov 2019, 16:21
Huh. Never knew Video-writers could come with other alps switches.
Haha, really funny :roll:

cli

27 Nov 2019, 16:50

ppCircle wrote:
27 Nov 2019, 16:38
Fod wrote:
27 Nov 2019, 16:21
Huh. Never knew Video-writers could come with other alps switches.
Haha, really funny :roll:
Bummers, you are quite unfortunate. Next time ask for photo's of the switches.
I was also scammed with Alps Brown switches. Seller didn't told me the switches are in very bad condition, corroded switch plates...

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ppCircle

27 Nov 2019, 16:58

cli wrote:
27 Nov 2019, 16:50
Bummers, you are quite unfortunate. Next time ask for photo's of the switches.
I was also scammed with Alps Brown switches. Seller didn't told me the switches are in very bad condition, corroded switch plates...
Well i asked him, and i know him really good, i bought few keyboards from him, he always sends me switches photos. But this time his freind shipped keyboards due to absence from the country. And his friend was afraid not to break anything. (caps) So somebody before him has to harvested switches.
I am still on profit but i wanted to build acer 101 on browns from them. And i was 99% sure those was alps.

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yuchipashe

28 Nov 2019, 10:08

Polecat wrote:
26 Nov 2019, 05:24
I'm keeping a database of Northgates (also Focus, Monterey, and a few others) to try to learn more about them.
I'm interested in checking out your database, and might contribute to it since I'm planning on researching more on the history of these board manufacturers. This got me more and more intrigued :D

Rezene

28 Nov 2019, 22:22

How do zealios compare to alps tactitltiy and smoothness? I'm thinking about building a board and wanted to know if they would be disappointing compared to orange alps. Reddit seems to like them a lot but I feel like thats just compared to other mx style switches.

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Muirium
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29 Nov 2019, 08:43

Rezene wrote:
28 Nov 2019, 22:22
Reddit seems to like them a lot but I feel like thats just compared to other mx style switches.
I reckon you’ve read the situation well!

I haven’t tried Zealios, but I know Alps. Alps tactiles are very different beasts from MX tactiles, just as clicky Alps are a whole breed apart from clicky MX. There’s only so much you can do to tweak the MX design while staying within its shell.

ntv242

29 Nov 2019, 10:19

How do you guys generally maintain your alps keyboard? Even though I clean my desk often, I notice that there is some dust underneath the cap. I am afraid to blast it with air duster can though, worryying that the dust might go even deeper. For the future, should I get some sort of dust cover?

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Muirium
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29 Nov 2019, 11:31

Cover that thing already for the love of Alps!

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Chyros

29 Nov 2019, 14:32

A dust cover is always a good precaution, but really, it's not that bad. They just take issue to being stored for decades in the rain, that sort of shit ;) .

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fohat
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29 Nov 2019, 15:27

Also bad are environments where really tiny particulates are always hanging in the air. Warehouses are bad about that because forklift tires relentlessly shed tiny bits of rubber.

The cheapest and easiest dust cover is a small folded towel.

ntv242

29 Nov 2019, 16:36

I dont think my house is as bad as a warehouse (I hope!). But I have grown quite attached to my board, so just ordered a dust cover to be sure. It is quite cheap from ebay.

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snacksthecat
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29 Nov 2019, 20:43

Just found this user manual for Siig Minitouch.

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On the first page, in the diagram, it makes mention of an optional keypad (connected to the RJ11 plug). Anyone ever gotten their hands on one of these? I think that would be a fun addition to this nifty little board.

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Polecat

30 Nov 2019, 03:18

snacksthecat wrote:
29 Nov 2019, 20:43
Just found this user manual for Siig Minitouch.

On the first page, in the diagram, it makes mention of an optional keypad (connected to the RJ11 plug). Anyone ever gotten their hands on one of these? I think that would be a fun addition to this nifty little board.
Snacks, good to see you back! We've talked about those keypads here before, but I don't remember exactly when or where. If I remember correctly only the early MiniTouchs had a working interface for the keypad. Some later ones had the connector, but it was just there to fill the hole after keypad support was eliminated from the main PC board. On even later ones the cases didn't have an opening for the keypad jack. I have three or four MiniTouchs here, but I don't remember if any of mine have the jack, or if it's functional if they do. I also have an Ortek MCK-84 with what might be a keypad connection, but that's a 15 pin D-sub instead of a modular connector,

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Polecat

30 Nov 2019, 03:39

ntv242 wrote:
29 Nov 2019, 10:19
How do you guys generally maintain your alps keyboard? Even though I clean my desk often, I notice that there is some dust underneath the cap. I am afraid to blast it with air duster can though, worryying that the dust might go even deeper. For the future, should I get some sort of dust cover?
Bah, humbug! Alps worry is, to me, overrated. I've been using Alps keyboards for thirty years now, and other than making a halfhearted effort not to spill food and drink into them I've never done anything special. My last driver was a Monterey K104, and I used it for about ten years until the printing wore off the caps. It literally never missed a beat in all that time, and was still working perfectly when I finally retired it. I've spent more time typing this reply than I ever did keeping my Alps keyboards working.

cli

04 Dec 2019, 13:43

Polecat wrote:
30 Nov 2019, 03:39
ntv242 wrote:
29 Nov 2019, 10:19
How do you guys generally maintain your alps keyboard? Even though I clean my desk often, I notice that there is some dust underneath the cap. I am afraid to blast it with air duster can though, worryying that the dust might go even deeper. For the future, should I get some sort of dust cover?
Bah, humbug! Alps worry is, to me, overrated. I've been using Alps keyboards for thirty years now, and other than making a halfhearted effort not to spill food and drink into them I've never done anything special. My last driver was a Monterey K104, and I used it for about ten years until the printing wore off the caps. It literally never missed a beat in all that time, and was still working perfectly when I finally retired it. I've spent more time typing this reply than I ever did keeping my Alps keyboards working.
Agree, little bit dust will not hurt the switches.

IMO, the reputation that Alps boards are dust sensitive are caused by the assholes that sell keyboards in bad condition that had been stored in a dusty environment. Most of them can be saved (some cleaning and lubing), but I had two that I that I had to write off. Lots of rust, oxidized switch plates and so on... was not worth the pain to restore it.

Rezene

04 Dec 2019, 20:11

How rare/expensive are focus fk 2001's in black? I think that they look absolutely amazing and I want one.

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E3E

04 Dec 2019, 20:20

Rezene wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 20:11
How rare/expensive are focus fk 2001's in black? I think that they look absolutely amazing and I want one.
I found two off of eBay about two years apart from each other in time. Those were sold to Chyros later on as they're not my cuppa.

I'd say they're pretty rare and not something you should expect to see, but there's a small possibility of running into one.

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ppCircle

04 Dec 2019, 20:24

Rezene wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 20:11
How rare/expensive are focus fk 2001's in black? I think that they look absolutely amazing and I want one.
Quite rare. And how expensive? I think it depends on condition/ switches. My guess ~50 to 100$ to standard price. :?:

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Polecat

05 Dec 2019, 02:48

Rezene wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 20:11
How rare/expensive are focus fk 2001's in black? I think that they look absolutely amazing and I want one.
I made mine a few months back from a black FK-2002 and a beige FK-2001 with blue Alps switches:

viewtopic.php?f=62&t=22072

I bought the black 2002 new almost thirty years ago, and I can count the black Focus boards I've seen since on one hand. Not too long ago someone was selling a rough black FK-3002 in the Marketplace here; it may still be available if that's of any interest.

Rezene

05 Dec 2019, 19:20

Polecat wrote:
05 Dec 2019, 02:48
Rezene wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 20:11
How rare/expensive are focus fk 2001's in black? I think that they look absolutely amazing and I want one.
I made mine a few months back from a black FK-2002 and a beige FK-2001 with blue Alps switches:

viewtopic.php?f=62&t=22072

I bought the black 2002 new almost thirty years ago, and I can count the black Focus boards I've seen since on one hand. Not too long ago someone was selling a rough black FK-3002 in the Marketplace here; it may still be available if that's of any interest.
that board had water damage and some keys didn't work right? I don't have any experience repairing pcb's and I'm in the US so probably not worthwhile if its still available not sure

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ppCircle

05 Dec 2019, 20:50

Well, i got today fk-747 with polish sub legends :D

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Fun Fact, "ł" is made of "1" number
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More photos: https://imgur.com/a/uxBlQ6n
Last edited by ppCircle on 06 Dec 2019, 00:41, edited 2 times in total.

ntv242

05 Dec 2019, 22:26

^ Nice one, looks very clean.
Polecat wrote:
30 Nov 2019, 03:39

Bah, humbug! Alps worry is, to me, overrated. I've been using Alps keyboards for thirty years now, and other than making a halfhearted effort not to spill food and drink into them I've never done anything special. My last driver was a Monterey K104, and I used it for about ten years until the printing wore off the caps. It literally never missed a beat in all that time, and was still working perfectly when I finally retired it. I've spent more time typing this reply than I ever did keeping my Alps keyboards working.
cli wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 13:43

Agree, little bit dust will not hurt the switches.

IMO, the reputation that Alps boards are dust sensitive are caused by the assholes that sell keyboards in bad condition that had been stored in a dusty environment. Most of them can be saved (some cleaning and lubing), but I had two that I that I had to write off. Lots of rust, oxidized switch plates and so on... was not worth the pain to restore it.
Yeah i guess I am influenced by many people saying that alps is sensitive to dust, so I was over worried there. The cover was ordered anyways, and it looks so great, like made specifically for my keyboard, so not a bad thing I suppose.
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Rezene

Yesterday, 04:22

ppCircle wrote:
05 Dec 2019, 20:50
Well, i got today fk-747 with polish sub legends :D

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Fun Fact, "ł" is made of "1" number
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More photos: https://imgur.com/a/uxBlQ6n
Old focus boards look so good

4sStylZ

Yesterday, 16:35

First try to 3D print my M0116 case :

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The red PLA is hideous but I am waiting some Marble PLA for the final print with issue corrected.

https://imgur.com/gallery/skKm5e9

ntv242

Yesterday, 16:55

Looks pretty sweet ngl, next step is to 3d print the keycaps also to make everything synchronized and keep the theme going on :D

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Muirium
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Yesterday, 19:22

Hideous? That’s actually kinda neat! Would love a custom case like that for the various boards I have with ruined or entirely absent shells. Various being the word!

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