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Optical Switch Keyboards

Posted: 13 Nov 2011, 23:34
by HaaTa
Other than the DataHand, have Optical Switch Keyboards been seen out in the wild?

Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 09:25
by HaaTa
No, replies?

Teaser then,
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 09:28
by fossala
Broken image.

Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 09:56
by HaaTa
Not so for me (even not logged in, and viewing from another computer on the other side of the country)...

Do you have troubles viewing picasa? (work proxy?)

Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 09:57
by woody
Then, linear?

Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 10:22
by fossala
Still broken, and I am at home.

Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 10:44
by HaaTa
Heh, something's wrong with your ISP...
I don't usually do this, but,
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Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 10:47
by fossala
I can see that, I am out in a couple of hours and I will check it again when I am there.

Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 11:16
by Spharx
How are thy suppose to work ??

Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 18:26
by ripster
He won't tell you.

It's a game in the USA we call "20 Questions".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Questions

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Posted: 14 Nov 2011, 22:52
by webwit
Is it a MOBBAL keyboard?

I really like the concept of an optical switch. It's so simple yet elegant, just detect key travel by checking if a light beam passes. The switch point will always be the same throughout the lifetime, which will be very long because there's no mechanical wear.

Posted: 15 Nov 2011, 01:24
by HaaTa
Nope, it's not MOBBAL. This keyboard is from the 80's. And was mass-produced (though I don't know to the extent).

As another hint, the company that manufactured the keyboard is Japanese for a US company. The manufacturer was bought out/merged by Hitachi in 2000.

The US company has 1 FCC certification for the computer that the keyboard came with. Unfortunately, the keyboard only says it's been certified, no FCC ID. It was granted in 1982. But I'm skeptical, since the keyboard says Class A (Industrial/Commercial use) and the grant was for Class B (Home use).

From the plastic, and ASSY 3388 8764 I'm guessing the late 80's.

More discussion == more hints :D.

Posted: 15 Nov 2011, 01:26
by ripster
I'm a big fan of the Suck & Blow switches myself.

At least the name.....
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Is it Animal, Vegetable or Mineral?

Posted: 15 Nov 2011, 01:44
by ripster
Lulz - Mobal? Advertising in Wikipedia. How tacky.
"MOBBAL™ Technology keyboard"

I marked this section once again as an advert. While it might be novel to do away with the conventional key matrix, this is still a keyboard which uses optical sensors. I would thus rewrite the section as "Optical keyboard" where the MOBBAL is just one arrangement. For an example of another keyboard incorporating optical sensors, please see the Datahand "keyboard". --84.196.169.103 (talk) 13:17, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


As patented technology MOBBAL is the only keyboard technology of its kind - it is not a keyboard - many keyboards may use this technology, but the technology is one. There is no optical keyboard or it does not fall in the scope of this technology - and MOBBAL, once again is not a keyboard, it is a technology, so it does not fit under other technologies... right? I would ask to re-consider, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.63.52.73 (talk) 15:03, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

The "Optical keyboard technology" section states that the MOBBAL Keyboard Technology is the only optical technology developed to a mass production stage. The only citation for this statement is a link to a primary source; a website that hasn't been updated since 2009. {{advert}}? - Soulkeeper (talk) 00:01, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 01:13
by HaaTa
Nothing today?

More teasers:
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 01:35
by webwit
Pah, I bet it does not have a detachable USB cable.

Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 01:52
by HaaTa
It has a detachable something :P

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Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 11:16
by cactux
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 15:41
by kps
cactux wrote:I am guessing that this board was buit by Burroughs Corporation/Unisys
Ah! I was trying to remember who else besides DG and Tek used light blue highlights.

I'll bet you're right.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 17:32
by ripster
I'm bored.
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When is the next round of 20 questions?
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 18:04
by kps
ripster wrote:I'm bored.
I'm not. I still want to know what the keyboard belongs to, since t№1KEotP can't tell me.
When is the next round of 20 questions?
I have a keyboard at home. The switches are contactless, but not capacitive, optical, or Hall effect.

Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 20:00
by ripster
I think it's this one!
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 20:13
by ripster
This one?
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 20:15
by ripster

Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 20:17
by ripster
I'm going to get this YET!

THIS ONE!

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?7447 ... s-keyboard.

Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 20:19
by ripster
Oh crap. DB-9 (I call it DB-9 just to annoy Kishy), not RJ-45.

Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 20:20
by ripster
Are the 20 questions up yet?

Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 20:21
by HaaTa
Lol, took a bit.

The manufacturer was Kokusai.

Oh, and the keyfeel is quite interesting. Most of the keys are mid-weight linears while the blue keys (and the double width keys) are twice as heavy. And the amount of force required seems to decrease at the very end.

Don't worry, I have another neat one :P

Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 21:55
by ripster
I'll save everybody the Google Image search for Kokusai keyboard. Didn't spot it.

This puzzling pic DID pop up.
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Posted: 16 Nov 2011, 22:23
by HaaTa
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