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sanding the double shot

Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 07:18
by heliar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... b5x6jDybWA


does anyone know what type of sandpaper/polish wax to use, if i want to either sand my shinning/used double shot keys to 1) a matte surface, or 2) a shinning surface (without the scratches etc)?

Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 08:30
by squarebox
I use 800 grid in that video.
If you want a shiny surface, you will need to do wet sanding with grid of 2000 and above.

Sanding off the shine and resell, claim near new is F' up... No offence

Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 12:34
by heliar
that is nice background music, one would have thought you were polishing jewelery or making a fine watch.

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my tools are ready, I hope I can show you the keys when they are ready. it may take some days though.

however I don't intend to sanding off the shine, I intend to make the shine uniform across the whole key, I will make a piano finish out of it.

no offence taken.

Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 13:56
by Ascaii
one thing I like to use for "wet" sanding is a single drop of green dish washing soap.

Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 15:20
by heliar
as lubricant?

Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 15:51
by Ascaii
yes. drop of green on the cap and sand. You can get a mirror finish on metal that way^^.

Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 18:34
by Gilgam
i used 600 wet sand paper
i worked out fine. Maybe should i do a pic before/after

Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 18:53
by kaiserreich
I used the method Ascaii taught me.
1000 grit and then finish with 1200 grit. Makes the keycaps feel like FILCO ones.

Posted: 13 Dec 2011, 21:35
by Ascaii
kaiserreich wrote:I used the method Ascaii taught me.
1000 grit and then finish with 1200 grit. Makes the keycaps feel like FILCO ones.
:shock: I HAVE A FOLLOWER! :o

Glad it works as well for you as it did for me.

Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 00:34
by Gilgam
Aren't they too shiny and too smooth ?

I love the rough texture as the fingers do stick less when you sweat (like in summer when it is quite hot).

Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 11:04
by Ascaii
One of the thing on my list to do when I have time (no idea when) is to try a lot of different grains from ~500 to 2000 and compare the results. 1000/1200 will give you a gentle texture on the cap without it looking rough. I will admit it was a case of "Let me see what I have in my toolbox" when I decided to sand my Caps and I just happened to have 1000 and 1200 ^_^.
I copied the simple green trick from the CPU Lappers over at OCN and I think it does make difference to dry sanding or using water, When I tried dry sanding the texture was a bit "patchy", while simple green gave me a uniform surface.

Like I said, there is still a lot of experimenting to be done in this field and I encourage anyone to try out different grains and find the grain you enjoy the most. There is no single perfect answer, just personal preference.

Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 16:00
by TheSoulhunter
True, 1000-2000 will still leave some texture...
I have 4000, 8000 and 12000 grit papers I used to mirror-polish metal, maximum shininess! >:D~

Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 18:36
by ripster
Squarebox - everybody wants to know the music in the Youtube video!

Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 20:03
by cable
This song will definitely be the official one in the mechanical world of keyboards.

Posted: 14 Dec 2011, 23:35
by heliar
this video reminds me of him. it has got a nice polishing rhythm too.

Posted: 15 Dec 2011, 02:02
by heliar
actually the shinning ones grip fingers better than the original matte surface. i feel it applies to both the biege and black ones. the original matte feels a bit slippery.

coarser one like those found on wyse feels the best.

acsii and others: any pictures of the polished caps?

Gilgam wrote:Aren't they too shiny and too smooth ?

I love the rough texture as the fingers do stick less when you sweat (like in summer when it is quite hot).

Posted: 15 Dec 2011, 03:07
by squarebox
Dont anyone here watch Transformers?
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It's by Steve Jablonsky - The Fight Will Be Your Own
Sadly, many notice the works of Han Zimmer but not works of Steve Jablonsky.

P.S I still hate Rosie Huntington Whiteley lips despite she's a Victoria's Secret model.

Posted: 15 Dec 2011, 03:15
by RiGS
Pretty dramatic music for sandpapering keys.
Haha. I agree with that guy.

Posted: 15 Dec 2011, 03:29
by squarebox
RiGS wrote:
Pretty dramatic music for sandpapering keys.
Haha. I agree with that guy.
Two keycap lost their life...
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Posted: 15 Dec 2011, 12:57
by cable
squarebox wrote:
RiGS wrote:
Pretty dramatic music for sandpapering keys.
Haha. I agree with that guy.
Two keycap lost their life...
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We have to resurrect the life of the keycaps.

Posted: 15 Dec 2011, 13:00
by Ascaii
heliar wrote:actually the shinning ones grip fingers better than the original matte surface. i feel it applies to both the biege and black ones. the original matte feels a bit slippery.

coarser one like those found on wyse feels the best.

acsii and others: any pictures of the polished caps?

Gilgam wrote:Aren't they too shiny and too smooth ?

I love the rough texture as the fingers do stick less when you sweat (like in summer when it is quite hot).
I love when people butcher my name :'(


Like I said im planning to do some before/after shots using different grains of sandpaper at some point and posting pics and a wiki page on the topic. Too busy right now.

Posted: 15 Dec 2011, 14:02
by cactux
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Posted: 15 Dec 2011, 17:30
by Lamaboi
After the sanding you could plasti dip'em or spray paint with krylon fusion color of your choice.

Posted: 19 Dec 2011, 22:22
by graboy
Is grinding down you keycaps with sandpaper really a good idea if you want to make them shiny or have a different texture? Or is it just if you are interested in restoring them?