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Do you want to try Varmilo contactless EC switch numpad? Stay tuned!

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 02:20
by Varmilo
:D

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 06:42
by Elrick
More importantly here - When are we going to see any releases of these switches into the 68, 87 and 104 keyboards?

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 07:06
by rich1051414
I agree. I am more of a DIY person, but these are not drop in replacements for cherry switches. I want a 75% option before my interest is peaked, unfortunately.

However, with the Inherent N-Key rollover, life expectancy of multiple lifetimes, more room for tactility options, the possibility for key actuation distance customization, I REALLY want to be interested. I do like the idea.

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 08:27
by Varmilo
Elrick wrote: More importantly here - When are we going to see any releases of these switches into the 68, 87 and 104 keyboards?
Once these new switches released, they will be available for all of layout keyboards. Stay Tuned! :D

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 08:28
by Varmilo
rich1051414 wrote: I agree. I am more of a DIY person, but these are not drop in replacements for cherry switches. I want a 75% option before my interest is peaked, unfortunately.

However, with the Inherent N-Key rollover, life expectancy of multiple lifetimes, more room for tactility options, the possibility for key actuation distance customization, I REALLY want to be interested. I do like the idea.
Yes, you are right. Thanks for liking it. ;)

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 11:39
by Elrick
Varmilo wrote: Once these new switches released, they will be available for all of layout keyboards. Stay Tuned! :D
Please put the switches within some neat Magnesium Cased Keyboards here - Money is no barrier if you actually provide goods of Ultra High Quality :wink: .

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 12:04
by Menuhin
Exciting new product - sounds like a modular switch unit of Topre.

I'm eager to try these switches out and understand their construction. Will definitely build keyboards with them if they feel nice for my fingers. :)

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 12:24
by depletedvespene
Varmilo wrote:
Elrick wrote: More importantly here - When are we going to see any releases of these switches into the 68, 87 and 104 keyboards?
Once these new switches released, they will be available for all of layout keyboards. Stay Tuned! :D
Will they be available in kit form, or sold independently as well?

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 17:23
by zslane
Is there a more thorough description of these switches somewhere?

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 18:10
by TuxKey
zslane wrote: Is there a more thorough description of these switches somewhere?

i second that.. never heard of these switches more info would be appreciated.

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 19:20
by rich1051414
TuxKey wrote:
zslane wrote: Is there a more thorough description of these switches somewhere?

i second that.. never heard of these switches more info would be appreciated.
They work like any other electro capacitive switch, like topre, only the capacitive material is on a slider or uses the spring.

I would like to know info on the colors and tactility information on available switches tho.

I am going to assume pinks are linear, if they are keeping things consistent.

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 19:57
by Lustique

Posted: 21 Dec 2017, 21:52
by codemonkeymike
Hold up, if the switch being used is the one in that video then it is not electro capacitive. Thats a reed switch, unless the graphic is wrong in some sense. So it is "electro magnetic" not "electro capacitive".

Posted: 22 Dec 2017, 07:43
by Elrick
codemonkeymike wrote: Hold up, if the switch being used is the one in that video then it is not electro capacitive. Thats a reed switch, unless the graphic is wrong in some sense. So it is "electro magnetic" not "electro capacitive".
Aint it a GREAT time to be alive :mrgreen: .

New switches are about to hit the market like never before, so the longer I'm around they all shall be added to my collection before the end.

Posted: 22 Dec 2017, 07:52
by Chyros
I don't understand this at all. If it's a capacitive switch, then why does the switch have metal contacts just like a Cherry switch? And if it's not physical contact-based, why does the slider have cams? The cams even clip through the contacts in the render! Oo And just like Mike said, the way the animation works makes it look like it's a magnetic-conductive switch (not a reed switch though, as the contacts aren't sealed).

Posted: 22 Dec 2017, 19:39
by rich1051414
Chyros wrote: I don't understand this at all. If it's a capacitive switch, then why does the switch have metal contacts just like a Cherry switch? And if it's not physical contact-based, why does the slider have cams? The cams even clip through the contacts in the render! Oo And just like Mike said, the way the animation works makes it look like it's a magnetic-conductive switch (not a reed switch though, as the contacts aren't sealed).
Yeah I am confused as well. Honestly, that animation confused the heck out of me. What is being demonstrated isn't electro-capacitive at all, unless I am missing something.

Posted: 22 Dec 2017, 20:35
by Chyros
rich1051414 wrote:
Chyros wrote: I don't understand this at all. If it's a capacitive switch, then why does the switch have metal contacts just like a Cherry switch? And if it's not physical contact-based, why does the slider have cams? The cams even clip through the contacts in the render! Oo And just like Mike said, the way the animation works makes it look like it's a magnetic-conductive switch (not a reed switch though, as the contacts aren't sealed).
Yeah I am confused as well. Honestly, that animation confused the heck out of me. What is being demonstrated isn't electro-capacitive at all, unless I am missing something.
You're not missing anything at all, that demonstration simply isn't capacitive, nor is it contactless.

I mean don't get me wrong, I love market innovations like this, but just like with Bloody (whom I more or less tore to shreds) I think there's some grade-A bullshit marketing going on here. Still though, capsense and contactless rock, I hope it is actually that! :D

Posted: 22 Dec 2017, 22:11
by Daniel Beardsmore
Well, according to the video, you get little lightning bolts shooting around inside. It would be a challenge to be more clueless about the subject.

I still remember Noppoo bringing out a "capacitive" keyboard that turned out to be something very suspect (no-one was quite sure what it was, but it had diodes) but the real capacitive version was confirmed later in time.

Posted: 23 Dec 2017, 00:59
by Elrick
Daniel Beardsmore wrote: Well, according to the video, you get little lightning bolts shooting around inside.
That would be cool having enough charge to start a 357 Windsor Phase III engine :lol: .

Then this future keyboard model would be worth buying to start any car up, if their on board battery is dead.

I knew Varmilo was unique when it comes to making powerful keyboards......

Posted: 23 Dec 2017, 05:32
by hasu
I got a keyboard with Pink EC swithes from Varmilo for review and there are unsorted pics here. https://imgur.com/a/sYv7O
I'll writeup somewhere later.