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Realforce

Posted: 07 Feb 2012, 18:22
by Icarium
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard_deta ... RODUCT=863

Pretty.

I'm thinking about getting one because I'm curious about variable weight switches. Are there any cheap alternatives?

Posted: 07 Feb 2012, 18:26
by itlnstln
Keytronic (I forgot the model number). They're rubber domes, but they're variable and they are generally heavier than the RF.

Posted: 07 Feb 2012, 19:14
by Gilgam
Realforce and cheap is an oxymoron (http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymoron)
:mrgreen:

Joke aside, the red cherrymx switches are near, but still far (no bump, and harder to press).

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 03:14
by forcefollow
um, there are a few uniform 30g realforce keyboards if you're looking for something lighter than mx red, although not by much

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 10:39
by Icarium
uhm...I have linear boards what I'm interested in is _variable weight_. :)

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 14:51
by Gilgam
Icarium wrote:uhm...I have linear boards what I'm interested in is _variable weight_. :)
Great expectations means great sacrifices :-)

So Realforce is the way to go, you can order it in Korea (leopold store, but i believe it'll be the same price with VAT and shipping) or from Geekstuff4you.
But the Keyboard co is a nice shop.

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 14:55
by Jim66
I'm a huge realforce/Topre convert. There are no other cheap alternatives.

If I every did go back to Cherry switches, it would be to red.

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 14:56
by forcefollow
ah, my bad..
aside from keytronic mentioned above, the only variable-weighted keyboard I know is fujitsu libertouch http://www.fcl.fujitsu.com/release/2009/20090722.html
never tested it myself, but it is said that it's not as good as RF. And it's only cheaper by a hair anyway :(

On the other hand, methinks variable-force is not for me.. recently I got my 87USD variable force (10th anniv. edition) low-noise model. I kinda like the feeling of low-noise, but being accustomed in typing on uniform-weighted keyboards resulting a lot of typos when using it. So I left it mainly as collection.

Since you seems adept at electronics, ever considered of making variable-weighted cherry mx keyboard? definitely cheaper than topre if you already have several kinds of cherry switches

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 15:15
by Icarium
I haven't really thought about it. I would need to replace a lot of springs and I would have to figure out which weights to use first. It's not a bad idea, though. Maybe I can get weight measurements from somebody who has a realforce.

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 15:23
by forcefollow
what can I help you with, then? :p

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 16:38
by graviton
your link is a "uniform" not a "variable"
there is some variable rubber dome for a cheaper price though but cant find any link, sorry
but Dr.Paksa a.k.a forcefollow is willing to help there....

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 18:46
by Icarium
graviton wrote:your link is a "uniform" not a "variable"
there is some variable rubber dome for a cheaper price though but cant find any link, sorry
but Dr.Paksa a.k.a forcefollow is willing to help there....
Oh, really? I just assumed that Realforce was the variable weight product line. How do you tell them apart then?

Rubberdome alternatives would of course be interesting as well.

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 23:23
by 002
Icarium wrote:How do you tell them apart then?
Model number will be different - that's about it (save typing on them)