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How to Replace Laptop Keyboard with Cherry ML Switches?

Posted: 24 May 2013, 04:51
by ماء
I now use laptop chiclet keyboard and easily damaged if exposed to dust: cry:
The example
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THANKS before

Posted: 24 May 2013, 10:30
by dondy
are you sure you could fit them in there without hitting the screen when closed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiclet_keyboard

this looks like it's a *really* thin build, so ml switches and keycaps would easily be higher than that.

i never had problems with dust in the keyboard - usually have more of a problem with dust fucking up the ventilation D:

Posted: 24 May 2013, 11:46
by Muirium
Yeah, I don't think you'll have any luck with this.

Instead: put the laptop on a stand and plug in whatever real keyboard you like.

Posted: 24 May 2013, 15:22
by ماء
I' m find
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Posted: 24 May 2013, 15:27
by Muirium
I don't know why your pictures never seem to show up using img /img tags here, ماء. But you found a good one!

http://kkcdn-static.kaskus.co.id/images ... 052011.jpg

Laptops used to be a tiny little but chunkier, back in the day. I don't know how a manufacturer could get away with integrating a real keyboard now.

Posted: 24 May 2013, 15:36
by ماء
it is a laptop lexmark long they made ​​it a little thicker
http://www.sieler.com/lexbook/lb10.jpg
you know What you live in his time?
but now they do not make anymore

Posted: 24 May 2013, 15:48
by Muirium
My first real computer was a laptop I got in 1997, back when they all still looked much like that. No USB, no optical drive and no built in networking. Pretty useless in a modern sense. Especially once I wore the floppy drive out!

Posted: 24 May 2013, 15:57
by ماء
do you still have them picture
here many older laptops may be one of them ml switch
http://pcequip.com/index.php?cPath=72&o ... e03c029ed0

Posted: 24 May 2013, 16:01
by bhtooefr
You could put a real keyboard in a modern (well, not MacBook Air thin, but modern ~1" thick business machine thick) laptop, but you'd have some serious compromises as far as capability.

To have the keyboard in the modern position, you'd have a very deep laptop - this would basically mandate a 4:3 screen, and the keyboard wouldn't be pushed all the way back to the screen like laptops have been since the first PowerBooks, it'd be a couple inches away.

Then, you'd have the hard drive and battery at the front, and the motherboard at the rear, with the keyboard carrying the SATA and power between the motherboard and those devices.

And, for a ~14" laptop, you'd need a TINY motherboard - think on the order of a MacBook Pro Retina 13" board - so forget about discrete graphics. RAM actually could stay socketed, because that means it can be stacked, reducing depth, though.

Posted: 24 May 2013, 16:09
by ماء
powerbook is thick,macbook is thin :lol:
Nice thick or thin bhotder?

but macbook should be better :D

Posted: 24 May 2013, 16:11
by dondy
you could try to buy a old laptop for it's casing and try to fit a touchpad and a keyboard (cherry g84 - or are there other cherry ml kb?) in it... that sounds like a tough job though...

esp. because touchpads exceed usual old-laptop-screen-sizes...

or just build your custom laptop in the old-laptop-casing using something like a raspberry pi - that sounds awfully expensive though... and also annoying to do :D

Posted: 24 May 2013, 16:30
by ماء
but difficult for older, laptops yes good idea but not easy

Cherry G84 laptop for every measure of how?

Posted: 24 May 2013, 17:06
by dondy
i'm not sure what you mean, if you talk about the measurements of the keyboard - that's hard to tell - i don't own one and the measurements on the official cherry site are most likely with the casing it comes in - so you would save a bit if you discard it. i really can't help you with that :(

Posted: 24 May 2013, 17:22
by ماء
cheery g84 for laptop size(inch)

Posted: 24 May 2013, 17:40
by dondy
http://cherry.de/cid/b2b_keyboards_Comp ... 4-4100.htm? has some information on there... though i think 19 inch application doesn't actually mean the keyboard has a size of 19 inch...

a 19inch laptop is quite a beast to carry around especially with the added weight from the mechanical keyboard xD

Posted: 24 May 2013, 17:45
by Grond
That refers to 19 inch rack mounts I guess.

Posted: 25 May 2013, 03:35
by ماء
wow 19inch

Posted: 26 May 2013, 20:32
by davkol
derp

Posted: 27 May 2013, 14:21
by Daniel Beardsmore
My G84-4400 is 18 mm high including the case and keycaps. Slim considering how good the switches feel, but laptop keyboards are absurdly thin — thinner than you would imagine possible considering how much travel they have.