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Leopold FC660M or Keycool 84 Spacebar and Keycaps
Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 18:16
by Hypersphere
I have been searching for a replacement spacebar for a Leopold FC660M. It is a standard length (6.25 units; 118 mm), but it has non-standard spacing of the mounting stems (one center mount and two mounts 2.25 units (about 43 mm) to the left and right of center.
I have not been able to find a spacebar or keycap set for the Leopold FC660M. However, yesterday I discovered that the spacebar from the Keycool 84 (White or Grey PBT version, non-backlit) fits the Leopold FC660M. I think that the spacebar from a Keycool 87 would also work, but I have not confirmed this.
Therefore, now I would like to find replacement spacebars for either the Leopold FC660M or the Keycool 84 (White or Grey PBT non-backlit).
Material: PBT preferred, but ABS or POM okay.
Colors: White (or Off-White) and Black (or Charcoal Grey or Graphite).
The Keycool 84 spacebar has the Keycool logo printed on the spacebar. I would prefer a non-printed spacebar if these are available. Otherwise, I am looking for tips on how to remove the printing.
In addition to the spacebar(s), I would be interested in where to find keycap sets for both, the Keycool 84 and the Leopold FC660M.
BTW, I just recently acquired the KC 84. I did not expect to like it, but I do. I do not particularly like its appearance, but I am finding it excellent for typing. The feel of the keycaps is also agreeable. They do not feel plastic -- they have a pleasant texture like that of a pumice stone. For whatever reasons, my typing speed and accuracy are better on the KC84 than on most of my other keyboards except for my IBM SSK.
Thanks.
Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 18:47
by Muirium
Matte PBT has that pumice-like texture. Both materials are probably quite rough on a microscopic scale. I've an Acer keyboard that's the same way, definitely different to the typical glossy finish on plastic.
Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 19:15
by Hypersphere
Muirium wrote:Matte PBT has that pumice-like texture. Both materials are probably quite rough on a microscopic scale. I've an Acer keyboard that's the same way, definitely different to the typical glossy finish on plastic.
I have other keyboards with PBT keycaps that have an agreeable dry feel and some have a palpable texture ass well, but the keycaps on the KC84 are different. The tactility of the texture is much more pronounced. I like it. I am typing on the KC now and enjoying the sensation of typing. The sound reminds me of real typing -- using a manual typewriter and having the metal letters strike the inked ribbon and paper on the roller with a thockity clack.
All this is very well, but where can I find replacement keycaps -- especially the spacebar?
Thanks.
Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 20:48
by Wizard
I just bought a Keycool 84, does this mean that if i want to find replacement keys i have to buy special key cap sets? not just the regular ones?
Posted: 24 Aug 2013, 22:07
by Hypersphere
Wizard wrote:I just bought a Keycool 84, does this mean that if i want to find replacement keys i have to buy special key cap sets? not just the regular ones?
Well, yes and no. If you look at the layout of the KC84 and compare it with a standard layout, such as a Filco TKL, you will see that most of the keycap sizes and profiles are standard in the KC84. However, the exceptions include the 1.75x right shift, the 1x right modifiers (Alt, Fn, and Ctrl), and the profiles of the PgUp, PgDn, and End keys in the far-right column. Luckily, unlike the Leopold FC660M, the spacebar on the KC84 should not be a problem. However, because of the variances in some of the keycaps, you would either have to get a set that is explicitly for the KC84 or combine sets from different sources. For example, there are some posts on GH about which Cherry keyboards to harvest if you were interested in doubleshot ABS keycaps.
I have been looking at the Banggood site. They have some keycap sets for the KC84.
Posted: 02 Apr 2017, 15:14
by Redsec
Varmilo spacebar can help you

... it's cherry profile
And the Keycool 84 's keycap is OEM profile .
Posted: 09 Apr 2017, 00:39
by cods
Hypersphere wrote: I have been searching for a replacement spacebar for a Leopold FC660M. It is a standard length (6.25 units; 118 mm), but it has non-standard spacing of the mounting stems (one center mount and two mounts 2.25 units (about 43 mm) to the left and right of center.
Therefore, now I would like to find replacement spacebars for either the Leopold FC660M or the Keycool 84 (White or Grey PBT non-backlit).
Material: PBT preferred, but ABS or POM okay.
Colors: White (or Off-White) and Black (or Charcoal Grey or Graphite).
In addition to the spacebar(s), I would be interested in where to find keycap sets for both, the Keycool 84 and the Leopold FC660M.
Thanks.
I have a few FC660M keyboards - I like them a lot. I've got them with Cherry Greens, Whites and Clears. There are two main versions, I believe. There is the older version like yours (and all of mine) which has non standard spacebar stem placement and other non standard key sizes (such as the right shift). There is also a new version that I think may have been available for a year or less, which uses standard spacebar stem locations and has some other convenient tweaks.
Regarding your search for spacebars that fit - may I suggest instead buying standard spacebars and modifying them? It'll probably be a lot simpler than finding an FC660M / K84 spacebar that meets your requirements.
It's pretty easy, although a bit fiddly- I did what this person did:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyb ... cebar_mod/
This then opens up any aftermarket MX keyset for use on the FC660M.
My suggestions are, when buying for the FC660M from a group buy, Massdrop or wherever:
- buy an extra spacebar or two, mod one spacebar and keep the others standard
- buy an extra left shift, to use as right shift
- ensure that you get the correct sized bottom row keys (ctrl alt etc) which often requires buying an extra / odd modifier set (often with a name like Tsangan or the like).
The world is your oyster.
Posted: 09 Apr 2017, 00:50
by cods
As an example, I ordered the "Godspeed" keyset from Massdrop:
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/25045
I'll mod one of the spacebars and leave the others standard for use on my other keyboards.
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Child Kit: Novelties (+$39.99)
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Child Kit: Modifiers (+$34.99)
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Child Kit: TSAFOX (+$37.99)
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Child Kit: Spacebars (+$8.99)
Posted: 10 Apr 2017, 19:16
by Redsec
Check this link :
https://goo.gl/NOIpQb this spacebar are universal for leopold fc660m.
Hope it can help you
