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Can anyone identify this mid-80s Blacks keyboard?

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 05:43
by Pariah675
I managed to save this at the heavy diesel workshop I work at, it came connected to a CRT screen/AIO computer. The monitor had some manufactured date around 88, and a copyright notice about the internal software from 86. Unfortunately I only managed to get a brief glimpse before it was thrown away. The switches are black, although the spacebar is a slightly heavier linear grey. Taking it apart, it's plate mounted, and connects to the monitor with a phone-line type connector (I can't remember the exact name off the top of my head). The caps are very yellowed doubleshots, which I'm hoping I can bright up sometime soon. Any info would be great, I love old tech like this and wish I'd been allowed to keep the whole unit.

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The label is found inside the keyboard, on both halves.

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 10:45
by scottc
I can't help identifying it, but the jack you mentioned might be either RJ10 or RJ11: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Registered_jack

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 15:07
by Findecanor
It is called a "modular connector". It is called RJ only when used for telephone, and not all RJ connectors are modular connectors.

The layout on this keyboard is very reminiscent of DEC terminals, such as the VT102, so I suppose that the "screen" is the terminal.

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 15:44
by Muirium
The 1984 Macintosh M0110 keyboard uses "RJ10" or, more correctly, 4P4C. 4 pins in 4 connectors. The smallest of this family of jacks:

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I have also seen a 4P4C Wyse ASCII keyboard. But IBM used the larger jack that is better known for RJ45 Ethernet, while still only wired with 4 pins.

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 15:48
by scottc
Findecanor wrote:It is called a "modular connector". It is called RJ only when used for telephone, and not all RJ connectors are modular connectors.

The layout on this keyboard is very reminiscent of DEC terminals, such as the VT102, so I suppose that the "screen" is the terminal.
Oh, thanks for the correction. I wasn't aware of this.

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 23:20
by Pariah675
I had a feeling that the screen was the terminal, however I thought that terminology wasn't entirely correct as it seemed a standalone system. It's definitely a 4p4c connector, very narrow with 4 pins. The caps are very short, I just threw them on my Ducky G2 and they sit a lot shorter than the stock caps.

Posted: 07 Jun 2014, 23:22
by scottc
Are they Cherry profile? If your Ducky has OEM profile caps and they're Cherry profile, they'll be a bit shorter. Check this: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Keyboard_profile

Posted: 08 Jun 2014, 03:27
by Pariah675
Definitely Cherry profile. They're lovely to type on, better than the OEM Ducky caps.