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NAN,TAN,MODEL:6252EN,doesnt,work,on,my,Alienware,Aurora,syst

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:20
by DaNy1337
Hello,i,bought,today,a,keyboard,the,manufactuer,is,nan,tan,computer,company,and,the,model,is,KB6252EN,but,doesnt,work!On,the,back,side,it,has,a,switch,with,these,numbers:8088,and,80286.My,pc,doesnt,recognize,the,keyboard,if,i,let,the,switch,on:8088,the,lights,from,numlock,scroll,lock,and,caps,lock,pulsate,everytime,when,i,press,a,button,but,nothing,hapens,and,with,switch,on:80286,the,lights,doesnt,work,at,all,overall,the,keyboard,doesnt,work,on,my,pc.

My,pc,is,an,Alienware,Aurora,from,2009,and,my,motherboard,doesnt,have,any,ps2,slot,only,usbs.I,used,2,kind,of,adapters,to,plug,in,the,keyboard,in,the,usb,but,not,working!Can,you,tell,me,pls,what,i,have,to,do,so,i,can,use,the,keyboard,on,this,pc,i,really,love,the,keyboard,it,has,Alps,switches,i,think!Thank,you,in,advance,and,have,a,nice,day,sorry,for,this(,,,,,,,),but,my,space,from,actual,keyboard,is,broken,xD

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:22
by scottc
is,your,spacebar,broken?

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:24
by DaNy1337
Yes,sir,and,im,sorry,for,that

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:26
by scottc
here,have,a,space: you,can,copy,paste,it,and,use,it,for,whatever,you,like

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:28
by DaNy1337
Ty,but,this,doesnt,solve,my,problem,with,the,keyboard

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:29
by chzel
Alt+32 is your friend!
What is your problem?

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:33
by DaNy1337
Well,i,just,bought,a,NAN,TAN,keyboard,model:KB6252EN,but,doesnt,work,on,my,pc!i,bought,her,coz,i,want,to,replace,this,idiot,apple,keyboard,with,broken,spacebar,xD

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:41
by chzel
If I understand this correctly, your current KBD has a broken spacebar, so you want to replace it with the NTC KB-6253EN?
Also your PC doesn't have a PS/2 port, so you need an adapter to make it work, right?

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:49
by DaNy1337
My,actual,kbd,is,an,apple,but,the,spacebar,is,broken,and,i,bought,a,secondhand,keyboard,today,in,the,morning,
an,NTC,KB6253EN,but,i,think,is,a,very,old,model,and,it,doesnt,work,on,my,pc,i,will,post,some,pictures,so,you,can
see,what,kbd,is,it

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:55
by DaNy1337
Image

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 15:58
by photekq
The problem will lie in the PS2->USB adapter you're using. You're probably using a cheap passive one, which won't work. You need an active converter like the 'blue cube' converter, or the ID Innovations converter. You'll also need a cheap, passive DIN->PS2 converter [these are the same connector basically, one's just larger, so you don't need an active converter for this]

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:03
by DaNy1337

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:06
by scottc
That PS2 adapter definitely isn't active, so photekq is right. You can typically get active ones on eBay for less than €5, or get the blue cube if you want to be sure.

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:09
by DaNy1337
can,you,give,me,the,link,with,what,i,have,to,buy,so,i,can,use,the,kbd,thx

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:09
by chzel
or a soarer's!
Your problem is that the converter you are using, the green one, cannot "talk" correctly to the PC, you need an other one.
Where are you located?
BTW nice KBD

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:15
by DaNy1337
Thx,chzel!im,living,in,Romania!

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:21
by scottc

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:27
by Daniel Beardsmore
Wow, a black NTC KB-6252!

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:30
by chzel
scottc wrote: You can try this one: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-A-Male-to-PS ... 4d21f3a002
That would probably work!


edit:noticed it is likely a clone, so "most certainly" turned probably!

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:32
by DaNy1337
Ok,ty,so,much,guys!but,how,should,i,let,the,switch,from,the,back,of,the,kbd?8088,or,80286?


http://postimg.org/image/oquafp1qt/

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:35
by photekq
That other adapter (DIN->PS2) is fine. You don't need to replace that.

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:38
by DaNy1337
Ok

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 16:48
by chzel
I believe it should be at 80286 (AT), I think 8088 is XT?

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 17:03
by scottc
chzel wrote:
scottc wrote: You can try this one: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/USB-A-Male-to-PS ... 4d21f3a002
That would probably work!


edit:noticed it is likely a clone, so "most certainly" turned probably!
Yeah, I've ended up with slightly dodgy blue cubes before, so that's where the "probably" part came from. :D They've all been generally okay though, so not too much to worry about.

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 17:22
by DaNy1337
chzel wrote: I believe it should be at 80286 (AT), I think 8088 is XT?
Thats,what,ive,read,too,i,will,see,when,the,adaptor,comes

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 21:32
by Findecanor
Yep, the switch on the underside should be in the 80286 setting so that it talks the AT protocol, which is used with both the big DIN (AT) and the small DIN (PS/2) connectors.
IBM's first computer with the Intel 80286 processor was called "IBM AT", where as the predecessors with 8088 processors were called XT and talked another protocol but used the same connector. The PS/2 connector was introduced with the "IBM PS/2" (obviously ;) ).

The bad thing with "blue cubes" are that they are a bit fat so it can get too cramped if the connectors are too close together. There are lots of other active adapters where there is a bit of a cable also, that are often easier to fit, but not all are known to work too well with all kinds of keyboards.

Nice-looking Nan-tan keyboard! I hope you like those White Alps switches.

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 23:12
by DaNy1337
Ty and yes i like it very much! those switches are awesome (that sound and tactile feel) :D one word amazing
My girlfriend gived me a keyboard :lol:

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 23:21
by the1onewolf
lmao this thread was pretty gold

Posted: 31 Aug 2014, 23:30
by Daniel Beardsmore
Findecanor wrote: Nice-looking Nan-tan keyboard! I hope you like those White Alps switches.
Surely you of all people would realise they're clones :-P

I'm leaning towards 'N' in the model numbers meaning "Nan Tan switch", since Nan Tan were passing off the clone switches as their own. (For all I know, Nan Tan were involved with Himake.) So, 6251EN would be clones, 6251EA would be Alps, and 6251EM would be Mitsumi. I don't know if the inconsistencies mean that I'm wrong, or that they didn't keep their model numbers straight!

And it's not just the black case, but the Dolch-like scheme too.

Posted: 01 Sep 2014, 00:08
by DaNy1337
Dont know if is a clone or not but for 1$ seems pretty good stuff :D btw mine is 6252-EN