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'''PG1350''', also called '''Kailh Chocolate Switch''' or '''Kailh Choc Switch''' is a series of low-profile metal contact switches from [[Kailh]].
 
'''PG1350''', also called '''Kailh Chocolate Switch''' or '''Kailh Choc Switch''' is a series of low-profile metal contact switches from [[Kailh]].
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They are also in gaming keyboards from Logitech, branded as '''Logitech GL'''.
  
 
The keycap mount is inspired by [[Cherry ML]] but the two types are not compatible.
 
The keycap mount is inspired by [[Cherry ML]] but the two types are not compatible.
  
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Likely due to the size, the switch contacts are not the scaled-down Cherry-style contacts as found in [[SteelSeries QS1]]; the movable contact instead uses lateral movement. As the size prohibits the use of a [[click collar]], a "click bar" is used instead, which is a rod spring that is pushed aside in a manner similar to that of a click leaf.
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Likely due to the size, the switch contacts are not the scaled-down Cherry-style contacts as found in [[SteelSeries QS1]]; the movable contact instead uses lateral movement. As the size prohibits the use of a [[click collar]], the clicky variant instead has a [[click bar]].
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==Variants==
  
 
{| class="wikitable sortable variants-table"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable variants-table"
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! Stem colour !! Type !! Product code !! Tactile force !! Actuation force  
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!Stem colour!!Type!!Product code!!Tactile force!!Actuation force
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|White||Clicky||CPG135001D03||60±10gf||50±10gf
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|Brown||Tactile||CPG135001D02||60±10gf||45±15gf
 
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| White || Clicky || CPG135001D03 || 60±10gf || 50±10gf
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|Red||Linear||CPG135001D01||n/a||45±10gf
 
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| Brown || Tactile || CPG135001D02 || 60±10gf || 50±10gf
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|Navy||Clicky||CPG135001D03-3||60±10gf||50±10gf
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|-
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|Jade||Clicky||CPG135001D03-2||60±10gf||50±10gf
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|-
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|Pale blue||Clicky||CPG135001D03-1||60±10gf||70±10gf
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|-
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|Burnt Orange||Tactile||CPG135001D02-1||70±10gf||70±10gf
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|-
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|Yellow||Linear||CPG135001D01-1||n/a||70±10gf
 
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|-
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| Red || Linear || CPG135001D01 || || 45±10gf
 
 
|}
 
|}
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The Navy and Jade switches have a thicker [[click bar]] than the White and Pale Blue to provide more tactility.
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In official specs sheets, Navy, Jade, Pale Blue and Burnt Orange are listed as having the same "tactile force" as their counterparts with slimmer thick bar and/or stiffer spring.
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Logitech's "GL" switches are available in White, Brown and Red.
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Logitech all of them as having actuation force at 50 gf, and travel distance at 2.7 mm, but both are within previously published tolerances.
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<ref name="logitechswitches">Logitech G—[https://www.logitechg.com/en-roeu/innovation/mechanical-switches.html ADVANCED MECHANICAL GAMING SWITCHES]. Retrieved 2019-08-19</ref>
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In March 2020, Kailh announced the [[Kailh Choc V2]]. The stem now instead has a [[Keycap mount#Cherry MX_mount|MX-compatible keycap mount]] similar to [[Cherry MX Low Profile]].
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The pinout is similar but the centre stem is wider and there are no fixing pins.
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<ref name="kailhtweet20200302">Kailh on Twitter:[https://twitter.com/kailhswitch/status/1234681541814407170【New】Kailh CHOC V2]. Posted 2020-03-02</ref>.
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==Keycaps==
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Although keycaps on commercial keyboards vary, Kailh's keycaps available separately are non-standard:
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[[File:PG1350 unique keycap stem design.jpg|thumb|232x232px|The unique keycap stem design of the PG1350 switches]]
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*A [[Unit|key unit]] is a smaller rectangular 18×17 mm (WxH), as opposed to standard 19.05×19.05 (3/4 inch).
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*Made for a 0.5u [[Staggering#Uniform stagger|uniform stagger]].<br /> Stabilised keys are 2u (Caps Lock, ANSI Enter) or 2.5u (Shift), with short Shift (ISO or right side) being 1.5u. The narrow section on vertical (ISO, JIS) Enter key is 1.0u wide.
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*Alt, Windows and Fn key are 1.5u, but the Ctrl keys are 1.25. Menu is 1u.
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Some keyboards have been made to fit these measurements: most often DIY kit-keyboards where keycaps have to be purchased separately.
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<br />
  
 
==Keyboards==
 
==Keyboards==
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* Azio MK-C  
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* Sharkoon Purewriter, DAREU EK820, Havit HV-KB390L and HV-KB395L, in full-size and [[tenkeyless]], some with RGB backlighting and some only with blue. Probably the same OEM.
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*Azio MK-C
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*Dacota Platinum Type Pro (Discontinued as of December 2020)
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*Sharkoon Purewriter, DAREU EK820, Havit HV-KB390L and HV-KB395L, in full-size and [[tenkeyless]], some with RGB backlighting and some only with blue. Probably the same OEM.
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*Hexgears Venture
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*Logitech G915, G913 and G815 gaming keyboards. The switch is branded as "Logitech GL"
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*MSI Vigor GK50. White switches.
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*Modecom Volcano Blade. Comes with 3 variants of Kailh PG1350 switches: Blue, Red, Brown.
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*A multitude of DIY kit keyboards. Most support only 1×1 keys, because stabilisers had not been available. As of December 2019, low-profile stabiliser are available.
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See also [[:Category:Keyboards with Kailh low-profile switches|Keyboards with Kailh low-profile switches]]
  
 
==See also==
 
==See also==
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* [[Kailh PG1232 series]] — with even lower profile
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* [[:Category:Keyboards with Kailh low-profile switches|Keyboards with Kailh low-profile switches]]
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*[[Kailh PG1353 series]] (Kailh Choc V2) — with Cherry MX mount
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*[[Kailh PG1232 series]] (Kailh Mini Choc) — with the same keycap mount but even lower profile
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*[[:Category:Keyboards with Kailh low-profile switches|Category:Keyboards with Kailh low-profile switches]]
  
 
==External links==
 
==External links==
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*Deskthority — [https://deskthority.net/product-news-f44/kailh-cherry-ml-inspired-low-profile-switches-t13734.html Kailh Cherry ML Inspired low profile switches]
 
*Deskthority — [https://deskthority.net/product-news-f44/kailh-cherry-ml-inspired-low-profile-switches-t13734.html Kailh Cherry ML Inspired low profile switches]
 
*Kailh — [http://www.kailh.com/en/Products/Ks/CS/ Choc Switch]
 
*Kailh — [http://www.kailh.com/en/Products/Ks/CS/ Choc Switch]
 
*YouTube — [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P_ucdyi1ms Teardown - New Kailh Cherry ML-type keyboard switches!]
 
*YouTube — [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P_ucdyi1ms Teardown - New Kailh Cherry ML-type keyboard switches!]
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==References==
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<references />
  
 
[[Category:Kailh switches]]
 
[[Category:Kailh switches]]

Revision as of 17:15, 14 January 2021

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Kailh Chocolate Switch
Manufacturer Kailh
Switch type Clicky; tactile; linear
Sense method Metal leaf
Rated lifetime 50 M
Pretravel 1.5±0.5 mm
Total travel 3.0±0.5 mm
Keycap mount Proprietary
Switch mount Plate mount

PG1350, also called Kailh Chocolate Switch or Kailh Choc Switch is a series of low-profile metal contact switches from Kailh. They are also in gaming keyboards from Logitech, branded as Logitech GL.

The keycap mount is inspired by Cherry ML but the two types are not compatible.

Likely due to the size, the switch contacts are not the scaled-down Cherry-style contacts as found in SteelSeries QS1; the movable contact instead uses lateral movement. As the size prohibits the use of a click collar, the clicky variant instead has a click bar.

Variants

Stem colour Type Product code Tactile force Actuation force
White Clicky CPG135001D03 60±10gf 50±10gf
Brown Tactile CPG135001D02 60±10gf 45±15gf
Red Linear CPG135001D01 n/a 45±10gf
Navy Clicky CPG135001D03-3 60±10gf 50±10gf
Jade Clicky CPG135001D03-2 60±10gf 50±10gf
Pale blue Clicky CPG135001D03-1 60±10gf 70±10gf
Burnt Orange Tactile CPG135001D02-1 70±10gf 70±10gf
Yellow Linear CPG135001D01-1 n/a 70±10gf

The Navy and Jade switches have a thicker click bar than the White and Pale Blue to provide more tactility. In official specs sheets, Navy, Jade, Pale Blue and Burnt Orange are listed as having the same "tactile force" as their counterparts with slimmer thick bar and/or stiffer spring.

Logitech's "GL" switches are available in White, Brown and Red. Logitech all of them as having actuation force at 50 gf, and travel distance at 2.7 mm, but both are within previously published tolerances. [1]

In March 2020, Kailh announced the Kailh Choc V2. The stem now instead has a MX-compatible keycap mount similar to Cherry MX Low Profile. The pinout is similar but the centre stem is wider and there are no fixing pins. [2].

Keycaps

Although keycaps on commercial keyboards vary, Kailh's keycaps available separately are non-standard:

The unique keycap stem design of the PG1350 switches
  • A key unit is a smaller rectangular 18×17 mm (WxH), as opposed to standard 19.05×19.05 (3/4 inch).
  • Made for a 0.5u uniform stagger.
    Stabilised keys are 2u (Caps Lock, ANSI Enter) or 2.5u (Shift), with short Shift (ISO or right side) being 1.5u. The narrow section on vertical (ISO, JIS) Enter key is 1.0u wide.
  • Alt, Windows and Fn key are 1.5u, but the Ctrl keys are 1.25. Menu is 1u.

Some keyboards have been made to fit these measurements: most often DIY kit-keyboards where keycaps have to be purchased separately.



Keyboards

  • Azio MK-C
  • Dacota Platinum Type Pro (Discontinued as of December 2020)
  • Sharkoon Purewriter, DAREU EK820, Havit HV-KB390L and HV-KB395L, in full-size and tenkeyless, some with RGB backlighting and some only with blue. Probably the same OEM.
  • Hexgears Venture
  • Logitech G915, G913 and G815 gaming keyboards. The switch is branded as "Logitech GL"
  • MSI Vigor GK50. White switches.
  • Modecom Volcano Blade. Comes with 3 variants of Kailh PG1350 switches: Blue, Red, Brown.
  • A multitude of DIY kit keyboards. Most support only 1×1 keys, because stabilisers had not been available. As of December 2019, low-profile stabiliser are available.

See also Keyboards with Kailh low-profile switches

See also

External links

References

  1. ↑ Logitech G—ADVANCED MECHANICAL GAMING SWITCHES. Retrieved 2019-08-19
  2. ↑ Kailh on Twitter:CHOC V2. Posted 2020-03-02
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