The long journey of the WhiteFox

Matt_ · 28 Nov 2015, 16:30

This is great news, thanks. Another question: you state that whitefox will use costar stabs, but the picture of the PCB shows holes for pcb-mounted Cherry stabs: will they be kept in the final design?

matt3o · 28 Nov 2015, 16:43

Matt_ wrote: ↑This is great news, thanks. Another question: you state that whitefox will use costar stabs, but the picture of the PCB shows holes for pcb-mounted Cherry stabs: will they be kept in the final design?

the PCB supports cherry stabs, but we are not producing the plates for that.

Matt_ · 28 Nov 2015, 16:50

That clears things up, thanks matt3o.

vivalarevolución · 28 Nov 2015, 22:03

Will the first group buy be done on Massdrop, since they were so involved in the development? Or elsewhere?

matt3o · 29 Nov 2015, 08:05

vivalarevolución wrote: ↑Will the first group buy be done on Massdrop, since they were so involved in the development? Or elsewhere?

yes the first will be on MD.

matt3o · 29 Nov 2015, 22:51

one more thing: would there be interest for an assembly service?

f1xedgear · 29 Nov 2015, 22:57

matt3o wrote:one more thing: would there be interest for an assembly service?

I'd be fine with assembling it myself from a bare PCB since I have good tools, but I'm probably in the minority.

scottc · 29 Nov 2015, 23:36

I definitely want to assemble it myself, but you probably knew that.

chalks · 30 Nov 2015, 00:24

I would be interested in an assembly service as I don't have a soldering iron.

As it's being sold on Massdrop you could ask them about previous drops where kits or fully assembled was an option. I guess the proportion of orders for fully assembled would determine whether it's worth the extra logistical hassle.

Muirium · 30 Nov 2015, 00:38

Fully assembled limits the switches you can choose, obviously. (No Nixies for you!) But to what?

f1xedgear · 30 Nov 2015, 00:41

chalks wrote:I would be interested in an assembly service as I don't have a soldering iron.

As it's being sold on Massdrop you could ask them about previous drops where kits or fully assembled was an option. I guess the proportion of orders for fully assembled would determine whether it's worth the extra logistical hassle.

MassDrop offered the Infinity keyboard with everything but switches soldered:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-k ... guest_open

Same with Infinity ErgoDox:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-e ... guest_open

Original ErgoDox was all unsoldered, but used thru-hole parts:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ergodox?mode=guest_open

Muirium · 30 Nov 2015, 00:53

Fully assembled is a great idea, though. We stopped soldering our computers in the 1970s! It's a niche desire, and turns away a lot of people otherwise into mechs.

kylelakyle · 30 Nov 2015, 03:09

matt3o wrote: ↑one more thing: would there be interest for an assembly service?

I'm interested since I don't have the tools.

matt3o · 30 Nov 2015, 08:44

I believe MD can't offer a 100% assembled keyboard because of FCC issues, but that doesn't mean that I (and some other fellow makers) couldn't help less soldering iron savvy friends.

matt3o · 03 Dec 2015, 09:43

ok so, this would be the special edition

I hope I can make it happen (with gold anodized case)

Muirium · 03 Dec 2015, 10:53

GoldFox.

stuplarosa · 03 Dec 2015, 18:50

Wow. Wow. Wow.

I am imagining a true fox with DSA Dolch done in PBT and ergo clears... <sigh>

julientaq · 03 Dec 2015, 20:49

ok.

i want one.

any idea of what the price could be?

i’m gonna save for this

About keycap, can we have some alternative (like a control instead of this caps lock?) or maybe blank keycap?

but the layout is just perfect for me.

matt3o · 04 Dec 2015, 00:09

I'm not sure about pricing yet, sorry.

There are quite some options for the keycaps, including an FN and a CTRL in lieu of the caps lock.

potatowire · 04 Dec 2015, 02:16

matt3o wrote: ↑...CTRL in lieu of the caps lock.

I'm even more on board now. Perfect.

matt3o · 04 Dec 2015, 14:43

Good news / bad news situation.

Bad news: we won't make the gold edition. Sorry, I tried, but it adds a lot of work and we wouldn't make it by Christmas.

Good news: we will get FCC compliance, meaning that MD will offer a 100% full assembled WhiteFox. As far as I know this would be a first (but I might be wrong). Unfortunately I don't think it will be CE certified too. Also we will probably have a proper product box, no bubble wrap in generic box but a custom made packaging to fit all the components.

More good news: group buy starts next week! Hold tight!

M1K3L08 · 04 Dec 2015, 15:16

matt3o wrote: ↑Good news / bad news situation.

Bad news: we won't make the gold edition. Sorry, I tried, but it adds a lot of work and we wouldn't make it by Christmas.

Good news: we will get FCC compliance, meaning that MD will offer a 100% full assembled WhiteFox. As far as I know this would be a first (but I might be wrong). Unfortunately I don't think it will be CE certified too. Also we will probably have a proper product box, no bubble wrap in generic box but a custom made packaging to fit all the components.

More good news: group buy starts next week! Hold tight!

Hyyyyyyyyyyyyyyypppppppppeeeeeeee!!

Muirium · 04 Dec 2015, 15:19

I cry tears of gold. Damnit. That always happens when you think you have the loot!

Matt_ · 04 Dec 2015, 15:48

Too bad for the black edition, perhaps later? The white version looks awesome though. Can't wait to see the group buy go live.

matt3o · 04 Dec 2015, 15:50

Matt_ wrote: ↑Too bad for the black edition, perhaps later? The white version looks awesome though. Can't wait to see the group buy go live.

the black version might be released on a later date... possibly.

SL89 · 04 Dec 2015, 16:05

Black Fox + R5 or SS = HnnnnnnG

cswanic · 04 Dec 2015, 16:11

May I suggest a no keycap option for the GB? (I'm trying to support Granite Round 4

)

Fooey on the gold option, while you're at it, make it Topre!

scottc · 04 Dec 2015, 16:21

I would be shocked if there was no naked option...

Matt_ · 04 Dec 2015, 16:23

cswanic wrote: ↑May I suggest a no keycap option for the GB? (I'm trying to support Granite Round 4 )

According to the first page, keycaps will be optional.

They are one of the most attractive features of the keyboard to me though

matt3o · 04 Dec 2015, 16:40

keycaps are indeed optional, but they will be pretty inexpensive... so... you might still want to catch 'em.