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sth wrote:...
just get GH60, it's already in beta testing.... exactly this layout, it's a clone of 356mini layout allowing use of 101-key cherry sets without any additional keys needed.

- GH60 does not come with holes for LEDs in the switches
- GH60 does not allow for ergonomic layouts
- GH60 does not support a pointing stick
- GH60 does not have soldering points for mouse-buttons

What about the HyperPoo ISO, was that just for the lulz or are you serious about making a thread for it?
Because that's still the most tempting layout for me

rindorbrot wrote:What about the HyperPoo ISO, was that just for the lulz or are you serious about making a thread for it?
Because that's still the most tempting layout for me

First I will make the PCB for the 5x15 then comes the rest.

7bit wrote:

sth wrote:...
just get GH60, it's already in beta testing.... exactly this layout, it's a clone of 356mini layout allowing use of 101-key cherry sets without any additional keys needed.

- GH60 does not come with holes for LEDs in the switches
- GH60 does not allow for ergonomic layouts
- GH60 does not support a pointing stick
- GH60 does not have soldering points for mouse-buttons

To finish first, first you have to finish.

Hmm, how much do I have to loan money for whole kit?

By when GH60 is beta tested, my design will be finished.

When the GH60 group buy starts, I will start mine!

Now I've got a more advanced design which will take into account all the design flaws revealed through the beta testing of the GH60.

Everybody is jumping on the Hyper group buy ordering the HyperMini!

Except for Hardcode GHers, nobody will buy the GH60 - an old design.

Ekaros wrote:Hmm, how much do I have to loan money for whole kit?

Just send 1000 EUR and I send you a Christmas card with the PCB layout as decoration.

Why haven't I found this thread earlier?

Finaly a 60% board with something for ISO-lowers.

Now I only need to find 70% board next...

Hmm, if it's one PCB the whole layout is almost up to coding teensy? So I can ponder some nice desings for bottom and second row...

There will be a HyperPoo (6x16) and a HyperMicro (4x12).

I just have to finish the PCB for the HyperMini. Once it is fully done, all other PCBs will be plain sailing because they are less conmplicated and I can use the experience fronm the Mini.

7bit wrote:There will be a HyperPoo (6x16) and a HyperMicro (4x12).

I just have to finish the PCB for the HyperMini. Once it is fully done, all other PCBs will be plain sailing because they are less conmplicated and I can use the experience fronm the Mini.

Good thing I have 2,7k€ of un-used student loan ready to be loaned ;D

I can send you 6.3k Cherry switches (3500 reds and 2800 clears) if you send me the 2,7k€!

7bit wrote:I can send you 6.3k Cherry switches (3500 reds and 2800 clears) if you send me the 2,7k€!

I think I can live without 60 keyboards... I am still a student...

You can sell the switches to other students, so they will later buy Hyper keyboards.

7bit wrote:When the GH60 group buy starts, I will start mine!

And it will end sometime in 2015. Starting a group buy has never been your problem...finishing one and making sure people get what they expected is your problem.

Are you going to prototype and test your design after it's done or just straight to production? Be careful that you don't confuse a more complicated design as a more advanced design. All I see in yours is unnecessary complexity, which will be harder to test.

How about a 70% PCB in addition to all 60% and 75%? Lets combine two good concepts into the ultimate compact keyboard. Herer are my quick design drafs on that.

simkev wrote:How about a 70% PCB in addition to all 60% and 75%? Lets combine two good concepts into the ultimate compact keyboard. Herer are my quick design drafs on that.

Something similar to your design is already in the pipeline...

gimpster wrote:

7bit wrote:When the GH60 group buy starts, I will start mine!

And it will end sometime in 2015. Starting a group buy has never been your problem...finishing one and making sure people get what they expected is your problem.

Are you going to prototype and test your design after it's done or just straight to production? Be careful that you don't confuse a more complicated design as a more advanced design. All I see in yours is unnecessary complexity, which will be harder to test.

Round 3 ended except for replacements.
Unicomp ended in a desaster.
Phantom ended for real, except for 2 mount plates and an unrelated key cap.
Round 4 production will ending really soon.
Hyper did not even start for real.
Round 5 is a sure thing to start somewhere in 2013 ...

My plan is:

Finish the design as good as I can.
Then, experts will take a look if everything seems right.
A prototype will be ordered and tested, by experts.
When it works, the group buy starts for real.

7bit wrote:

simkev wrote:How about a 70% PCB in addition to all 60% and 75%? Lets combine two good concepts into the ultimate compact keyboard. Herer are my quick design drafs on that.

Something similar to your design is already in the pipeline...

Don't tease me! Tell me more for Christ sake!

Inspired by these designs I quickly prototyped a simple variation of the 7bit version since I always wanted to have another keyboard with my custom AdNW layout, but more portable than the split BlueCube that still is my daily work equipment.
And after a few minutes of simulated typing I must say it feels pretty impressive: Not quite perfect like a split board in my opinion, but the symmetric stagger together with a larger hand separation makes typing feel very close to that freely adjustable setup. And the clean looks of it plus the tiny footprint will make this my next project, I guess - how convenient that I ordered spare teensies in advance, but which switches shall I use?
The middle part will house trackpoint and teensy, and I feel confident that minimalizing down to only 5 columns per hand is the right way to go - I haven't been using the outer pinky columns anymore since switching to AdNW.

Guess 7bit will then have the honor of picking a name for this design once finished after starting this whole idea again, and kindly organizing my supply of switches.

Suka, that is impressive, as usual. Is there any chance you could make the files for that plate available? I want one.

Ascaii wrote:Suka, that is impressive, as usual. Is there any chance you could make the files for that plate available? I want one.

Thanks - sure, I can post the blender 3D sources or STL's for direct use at shapeways next week. But for now I did not design a full case around it yet, to be more flexible and produce cheaper

Not quite the same, but similar:

7bit wrote: Round 3 ... except for replacements.

Means NOT ENDED!!

Round 3: 2010 .. ????

Spanning a whopping FOUR YEARS minimum and counted as a success by 7bit

Better ask iMav why he did not invite Ripster to take some pictures of the key caps so we know the errors before shipping!


Also, Round 3 started 2 years ago and shipping only 1.5 years ago.

You guys should get together and bitch it out.

And then focus and work together on the qHACK.

7bit wrote:Better ask iMav why he did not invite Ripster to take some pictures of the key caps so we know the errors before shipping!


Also, Round 3 started 2 years ago and shipping only 1.5 years ago.

2010 to 2013 is four different calendar years, so R3 will have spanned at least four years

When R3 replacements ship, you can call it ended.

Soarer wrote:

7bit wrote:Better ask iMav why he did not invite Ripster to take some pictures of the key caps so we know the errors before shipping!


Also, Round 3 started 2 years ago and shipping only 1.5 years ago.

2010 to 2013 is four different calendar years, so R3 will have spanned at least four years

When R3 replacements ship, you can call it ended.

Are they going to ship? ;D

Hmm, I should probably find a board for my keys...

Ekaros wrote:

Soarer wrote:

7bit wrote:Better ask iMav why he did not invite Ripster to take some pictures of the key caps so we know the errors before shipping!


Also, Round 3 started 2 years ago and shipping only 1.5 years ago.

2010 to 2013 is four different calendar years, so R3 will have spanned at least four years

When R3 replacements ship, you can call it ended.

Are they going to ship? ;D

I'd advise continuation of breathing.

I am amazed at how you all work with all these different ideas and mockups. This must not be your first times. Was it as easy your first times?

TheQsanity wrote:I am amazed at how you all work with all these different ideas and mockups. This must not be your first times. Was it as easy your first times?

Its never easy the first time, but we all managed somehow

I've finally narrowed down the layout I want to go with, now I just need someone to make a mounting plate CAD file for me, 7bit? If it Ain't to much trouble.
Anyhow, this is what it looks like:
And also, since I am working on a case for this beauty will the PCB CAD files be public so we can get the right screw hole line ups?