Hi all.
I'm currently building my first custom keyboard. It's plate mounted (hand wiring) TKL board. I've generated template from http://builder.swillkb.com/
Today I've got plate from laser cut. And found problems with stabilizers
I've bought stabilizers from WASD keyboards. First of all, looks like my stab holes are too long - stabs fixed not very well. I would need glue to fix them properly.
But another problem is space-bar. On backspace everything is fine. But on space-bar curved stablizer wire part hits middle of space-bar! I don't understand why. Cut-outs for backspace and space are the same. They must be different? Looks like they must be a bit above current position.
Could you help me, how to set up them correctly?
My drawing (dxf) is in attachment.
Need help with costar stabilizers
- Muirium
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- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
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Show us a screenshot. Next to nobody here can read those files.
My guess is: confusion over Cherry and Costar stabs. But just a guess without evidence.
My guess is: confusion over Cherry and Costar stabs. But just a guess without evidence.
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All sizes in mm.
This is image of part of keyboard, with stab holes: Dimensions of holes: (another keys removed from image) Looks like stab cutout must be 14.0(or less!) in height (instead of 14.2).
And aligned to the switch cutout. Without 0.5499 gap at top and 0.751 at bottom.
This is image of part of keyboard, with stab holes: Dimensions of holes: (another keys removed from image) Looks like stab cutout must be 14.0(or less!) in height (instead of 14.2).
And aligned to the switch cutout. Without 0.5499 gap at top and 0.751 at bottom.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
Hmm. Sure looks Costar. Perhaps they're use the same dimensions Matteo used on his early builds. Nah, forget that. Matteo's cutouts needed filing on one edge to make them bigger. Yours are plain too big instead.
Not a great problem to have to fix.
Not a great problem to have to fix.
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I can fix them. But what to do with space bar? It hits stab wire.Muirium wrote: ↑Hmm. Sure looks Costar. Perhaps they're use the same dimensions Matteo used on his early builds. Nah, forget that. Matteo's cutouts needed filing on one edge to make them bigger. Yours are plain too big instead.
Not a great problem to have to fix.
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Here it is:
But i've found that plate insert must be moved upwards by ~0.2mm. Because currently stabilizer insert (in keycap) rubs stabilizer insert in plate. On both space bar, and 2u keys. And their movements are not very good.
And also cutout is 14.2 in height, while insert is only 13.6. So I would need to glue it to fix properly.
As written in swill's topic on GH - it is a bit bigger for thick plates - 1.6+. But my plate is 1.5.
Next time will try Cherry stabs. Costar had very low gap between keycap insert and plate insert, and must be positioned very precisely to achieve smoothly movements.
I've done another straight wire (without curve in the center) and it works fine.But i've found that plate insert must be moved upwards by ~0.2mm. Because currently stabilizer insert (in keycap) rubs stabilizer insert in plate. On both space bar, and 2u keys. And their movements are not very good.
And also cutout is 14.2 in height, while insert is only 13.6. So I would need to glue it to fix properly.
As written in swill's topic on GH - it is a bit bigger for thick plates - 1.6+. But my plate is 1.5.
Next time will try Cherry stabs. Costar had very low gap between keycap insert and plate insert, and must be positioned very precisely to achieve smoothly movements.
- chzel
- Location: Athens, Greece
- Main keyboard: Phantom
- Main mouse: Mionix Avior 7000
- Favorite switch: Beamspring, BS, Vintage Blacks.
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Where did you get your stabs from?
Are they the same spec as genuine Costars (from a Filco or equivalent)?
I'll try to measure the stabs from my filco tomorrow.
Edit: I'm getting 13.8mm measuring the "base" of the stabilizer and the same when measuring the cutout on the plate.
On a Filco TKL.
Are they the same spec as genuine Costars (from a Filco or equivalent)?
I'll try to measure the stabs from my filco tomorrow.
Edit: I'm getting 13.8mm measuring the "base" of the stabilizer and the same when measuring the cutout on the plate.
On a Filco TKL.