Hi everyone I was wondering if anyone here tried this switch here. What are your opinions on it?
I know its pretty light at 35g. Gateron Clears actually actuate at 30g according to Ripster keyboard science, so there lighter. How smooth are the Matias Linears? I also think the shorter throw on the Matias would be nice. Thanks for the input, if any
Matias Linear Opinions
- Muirium
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- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
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I haven't tried them, but I know the other two.
The linears are very likely the best switch Matias makes. Simply because they shouldn't suffer that ratchet of a tactile mechanism present on the clicks and quiet clicks. Add the dampers and light spring weight, and they could be quite nice.
But they will still wobble like every other Matias switch (and indeed Alps before them) so they have their familiar faults as well. Gaterons are obviously an unknown quantity when it comes to lifespan, but Alps has been traditionally bad at ageing too. MX's contact design is smarter than Alps that way.
If you want damped upstroke however (and I do) these guys could be your best switch. All depends on caps and keyboard, which is where MX and clones will put up a strong fight.
The linears are very likely the best switch Matias makes. Simply because they shouldn't suffer that ratchet of a tactile mechanism present on the clicks and quiet clicks. Add the dampers and light spring weight, and they could be quite nice.
But they will still wobble like every other Matias switch (and indeed Alps before them) so they have their familiar faults as well. Gaterons are obviously an unknown quantity when it comes to lifespan, but Alps has been traditionally bad at ageing too. MX's contact design is smarter than Alps that way.
If you want damped upstroke however (and I do) these guys could be your best switch. All depends on caps and keyboard, which is where MX and clones will put up a strong fight.
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
- Main mouse: Ducky Secret / Roller Mouse Pro 1
- Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
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I have tried removing the tactile leaf from a quiet click ( basically dampened white/cream alps), this is pretty much what the red Matias switch is. It does wobble , but it is super smooth. The dampening is nice as well.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
7bit sent me a few like that, too. They're okay, but they're not as nice as linear yellow Alps.
Remember: Matias switches are developed from late "simplified" Alps. They're all a bit crappy compared to the "complicated" originals that you mentioned. There is a difference. A striking one on clicky and tactile. Less so on linear.
Remember: Matias switches are developed from late "simplified" Alps. They're all a bit crappy compared to the "complicated" originals that you mentioned. There is a difference. A striking one on clicky and tactile. Less so on linear.
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
- Main mouse: Ducky Secret / Roller Mouse Pro 1
- Favorite switch: MX Mount Topre / Model F Buckling
- DT Pro Member: 0167
I would love to try some real vintage linier alps at some point.
I also cannot wait to see how much better complicated blacks are to simplified
I also cannot wait to see how much better complicated blacks are to simplified
- stratokaster
- Location: Dublin, Ireland
- Main keyboard: Filco Minila Air
- Main mouse: Contour Unimouse WL / Apple Magic Trackpad 2
- Favorite switch: Alps SKCM Green
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Not all complicated Alps are created equal, later blacks (as found on Dell AT101W) are competent but not really outstanding in any way. Salmons and whites on the other hand are pretty nice.Muirium wrote: ↑7bit sent me a few like that, too. They're okay, but they're not as nice as linear yellow Alps.
Remember: Matias switches are developed from late "simplified" Alps. They're all a bit crappy compared to the "complicated" originals that you mentioned. There is a difference. A striking one on clicky and tactile. Less so on linear.
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: KUL ES-87 MX Black
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Haven't tried Matias, but I can confirm that Gateron Clears are very smooth, much smoother than new MX Blacks. Before getting any switch that light, though, you should try to test it. The low actuation force isn't for everyone.