Decision Data 8010 Punchcard Keyboard (NOS)
- HaaTa
- Master Kiibohd Hunter
- Location: San Jose, California, USA
- Main keyboard: Depends the day
- Main mouse: CST L-TracX
- Favorite switch: Fujitsu Leaf Spring/Topre/BS/Super Alps
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There have been a bunch of these pop up on ebay lately. This happens to be one of the first (and probably in the best condition of the lot).
Uses dual magnet Honeywell Hall switches (1SW11 and 1SW17).
Also, somewhat unexpected, the keycaps...they're amazing. Profile wise, I think they are my new favourites (even though the colours are awesome, still doesn't beat the Sony OA-S3400 Keyboard
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Dish, much deep.
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1974 Week 34. Though there are some parts on the keyboard that are 1973.
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Something tells me this isn't lead free solder
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Uses dual magnet Honeywell Hall switches (1SW11 and 1SW17).
Also, somewhat unexpected, the keycaps...they're amazing. Profile wise, I think they are my new favourites (even though the colours are awesome, still doesn't beat the Sony OA-S3400 Keyboard
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Dish, much deep.
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1974 Week 34. Though there are some parts on the keyboard that are 1973.
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Something tells me this isn't lead free solder
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This is one of the most beautiful keyboards I've ever seen. The photography is amazing too. Well done, HaaTa. (The black keyboard background reminded me of the 2001 monolith for some reason.)
Thank God I managed to get one. Mine is a bit older, 12th week of 1974. The keycaps are indeed amazing - matching my APL beam spring keycaps and my 1974 Micro Switch keypad keycaps. The feel of the keyboard is better than my other hall effect keyboards. It's now my favourite linear keyboard. I hope I can somehow convert it to USB some day.
Thank God I managed to get one. Mine is a bit older, 12th week of 1974. The keycaps are indeed amazing - matching my APL beam spring keycaps and my 1974 Micro Switch keypad keycaps. The feel of the keyboard is better than my other hall effect keyboards. It's now my favourite linear keyboard. I hope I can somehow convert it to USB some day.
- Quartz64
- Location: Russia
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Contoured (Kailh Box Black, Koala)
- Main mouse: Elecom Huge
- Favorite switch: Durock Koala
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Have you managed to convert it to USB?
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- Location: Switzerland
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M SSK
- Main mouse: Logitech MX ERGO
- Favorite switch: SMK 2nd Gen "Monterey"
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Created a new color scheme: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7yo8 ... 8tLWNJbnF3
If anyone made it work with PS/2 or USB, let me know.
If anyone made it work with PS/2 or USB, let me know.
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Unfortunately, having Hall Effect in a vintage keyboard is a blessing and a big curse. They are one of the best switches ever made, but you cannot use them!
BTW no, you will probably not find somebody who has converted this board.
BTW no, you will probably not find somebody who has converted this board.
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
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Why not just get a replacement PCB designed?
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https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=89262.0schwasam wrote: ↑Sounds like an interesting project then
Do you know of any other hall effect keyboards that have been converted?
This and a Texas instruments phone terminal boards and the space cadet keyboard are the only ones that have been converted. (https://github.com/MMcM/lmkbd2#space-cadet-direct). You're out of luck with everything else!
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Because there is no Hall Effect firmware out there. Ace Pad Tech, the makers of the only current HE boards out there, refused to give out the firmware to XMIT.abrahamstechnology wrote: ↑Why not just get a replacement PCB designed?
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- Location: land of the rusty beamsprings
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Grüezi,schwasam wrote: ↑Sounds like an interesting project then
Do you know of any other hall effect keyboards that have been converted?
Mike McMahon has converted a board that should be similar:
https://github.com/MMcM/micro-switch-ascii-kbd
Also worth a read might be this:
http://randomvariations.com/2014/10/18/ ... ard-logic/
These are only starting points, who will have to put some additional work into this.
And you will most probably be rewarded with only 1kro, does't make sense to punsh more than one character at once on a card puncher ...
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
That sucks. But I guess you can rip apart an APT and hand-wire it somehow.
- abrahamstechnology
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Laser with SMK Cherry mount
- Main mouse: Mitsumi ECM-S3902
- Favorite switch: Alps and Alps clones
- DT Pro Member: 0212
Because it's a Hall Effect keyboard, it operates on the same principle.abrahamstechnology wrote: ↑How is the APT controller supposed to help with these vintage keyboards? I don't get it ...
- Hypersphere
- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: Silenced & Lubed HHKB (Black)
- Main mouse: Logitech G403
- Favorite switch: Topre 45/55g Silenced; Various Alps; IBM Model F
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That PCB could be framed and exhibited as a work of art!
- snacksthecat
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- Location: USA
- Main keyboard: SSK
- Main mouse: BenQ ZOWIE EC1-A
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Really beautiful keyboard. You definitely hit the jackpot in terms of color schemes. I picked one of these up about a year ago but it's brown, beige, and very dirty.
I had aspirations to convert it some day but I guess I need some stuff explained to me. Can someone fill me in on the reason so few HE boards have been converted? Is it very tricky to figure out the sensing on HE switches? For instance, if I had a single microswitch and an arduino, would it be difficult to write a program that senses when the switch is activated? Then extrapolate that technique to a whole keyboard?
Sorry if I'm being dense; I promise it's not intentional!
I had aspirations to convert it some day but I guess I need some stuff explained to me. Can someone fill me in on the reason so few HE boards have been converted? Is it very tricky to figure out the sensing on HE switches? For instance, if I had a single microswitch and an arduino, would it be difficult to write a program that senses when the switch is activated? Then extrapolate that technique to a whole keyboard?
Sorry if I'm being dense; I promise it's not intentional!
- HaaTa
- Master Kiibohd Hunter
- Location: San Jose, California, USA
- Main keyboard: Depends the day
- Main mouse: CST L-TracX
- Favorite switch: Fujitsu Leaf Spring/Topre/BS/Super Alps
- DT Pro Member: 0006
- Contact:
Generally that won't work because most hall effect sensors for keyboards utilize threshold detection inside the sensor rather than the MCU. So all you're getting is on/off signals.