Data General Dasher replica
- facetsesame
- Mad Dasher
- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Ducky Legend
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac
- Favorite switch: MX red for linear, white for click
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I've noticed row 3 backslash and pipe is missing (maybe that key should just be available in all rows, including a space bar). And now I've just noticed we'd need a 2 unit shift to complete support for MX11900s. I'm going to look into Tipro support too.
What else is wrong, wrong, wrong?
What else is wrong, wrong, wrong?
- OleVoip
- Location: Hamburg
- Main keyboard: Tandberg TDV-5010
- Main mouse: Wacom Pen & Touch
- Favorite switch: Siemens STB 21
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Backspace ("BS") is missing; RUB OUT is an alias for DEL, not for BS. When DG boards have RUB OUT, they never have DEL, but there are boards that have both, BS and RUB OUT (or BS and DEL).facetsesame wrote: ↑What else is wrong, wrong, wrong?
- SL89
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- Location: Massachusetts, USA
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- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Green
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Is its sculpted btw, or all Row 3?
Have planck / JD40 / hypermicro layouts been checked for?
Sculpting usually messes up those and layouts like 1800 because the rows get messed up
Have planck / JD40 / hypermicro layouts been checked for?
Sculpting usually messes up those and layouts like 1800 because the rows get messed up
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- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: Custom 60%
- Main mouse: CST 2545-5W
- Favorite switch: MX Ergo Clear
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I just won an auction for one of the smaller Dasher boards with the blue colour scheme. Unfortunately, I got distracted in the end of the accompanying D400 terminal auction from the same seller and messed up my bid.
I'll post pictures as soon as the keyboard has arrived and I'm back home from my vacation.
I've seen the D100 and D200 mentioned in this thread, but these auctions and the front of the D400/D450 manual imply that the D400 and D450 came with the blue-on-blue-on-blue keyboards as well.
I'll post pictures as soon as the keyboard has arrived and I'm back home from my vacation.
I've seen the D100 and D200 mentioned in this thread, but these auctions and the front of the D400/D450 manual imply that the D400 and D450 came with the blue-on-blue-on-blue keyboards as well.
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I'd still like a photo to take a close look at legends. The one that sticks out to me is the numerical "3" which would be really nice to have made right.
I'm also digging into 3d parametric modeling programs (damn, do they work differently than other CAD). I successfully modeled a new turntable cover so I'm feeling confident. Which Dasher layout would be the best to replicate*?
*I don't think anyone wants the final version to be as thick/high off the desk as the original. So replicate in spirit, if not in exact dimensions.
I'm also digging into 3d parametric modeling programs (damn, do they work differently than other CAD). I successfully modeled a new turntable cover so I'm feeling confident. Which Dasher layout would be the best to replicate*?
*I don't think anyone wants the final version to be as thick/high off the desk as the original. So replicate in spirit, if not in exact dimensions.
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- Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Oh that was you... I had been watching that one.morkl wrote: ↑I just won an auction for one of the smaller Dasher boards with the blue colour scheme. Unfortunately, I got distracted in the end of the accompanying D400 terminal auction from the same seller and messed up my bid.
- facetsesame
- Mad Dasher
- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Ducky Legend
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac
- Favorite switch: MX red for linear, white for click
- DT Pro Member: 0092
Thank you! I'll get this corrected.
Multiple rows would be preferable, supporting the 1800 is a bit impossible with so many "numberpad" rows though. plank, JD40, hypermicro need checking - thank you!SL89 wrote: ↑Is its sculpted btw, or all Row 3?
Have planck / JD40 / hypermicro layouts been checked for?
Sculpting usually messes up those and layouts like 1800 because the rows get messed up
Congratulations! I'll be looking forward to those pictures. I have some more colour samples too...morkl wrote: ↑I just won an auction for one of the smaller Dasher boards with the blue colour scheme. Unfortunately, I got distracted in the end of the accompanying D400 terminal auction from the same seller and messed up my bid.
I'll post pictures as soon as the keyboard has arrived and I'm back home from my vacation.
I've seen the D100 and D200 mentioned in this thread, but these auctions and the front of the D400/D450 manual imply that the D400 and D450 came with the blue-on-blue-on-blue keyboards as well.
Thanks for the pointer on the D400/D450 - I thought there was another line of terminals before the change to beige, but hadn't spotted that.
morkl, mr_a500, would you be up for taking some hi-res top down pics of your keys?spopepro wrote: ↑I'd still like a photo to take a close look at legends. The one that sticks out to me is the numerical "3" which would be really nice to have made right.
For the keyboard itself, to date I've had the slab-with-lip form of the earlier boards in mind as the form. The key layout however is very much open. Personally I would prefer a big, 122-scale layout but I feel something smaller might be more practical.spopepro wrote: ↑I'm also digging into 3d parametric modeling programs (damn, do they work differently than other CAD). I successfully modeled a new turntable cover so I'm feeling confident. Which Dasher layout would be the best to replicate*?
*I don't think anyone wants the final version to be as thick/high off the desk as the original. So replicate in spirit, if not in exact dimensions.
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- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: Custom 60%
- Main mouse: CST 2545-5W
- Favorite switch: MX Ergo Clear
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I'm finally back home, and I have borrowed a fancy tripod for some top-down action! This one has a different font than the D2 though.
Here's a couple of shots i snapped while goofing around with the tripod and background; more/better pictures will come when the sun is back in working order:
Spoiler:
Numpad:
This model has sculpted alphas and the same profile for all the numpad and navigation keys. Perhaps going that path might make 1800 compatibility easier?facetsesame wrote: ↑ Multiple rows would be preferable, supporting the 1800 is a bit impossible with so many "numberpad" rows though. plank, JD40, hypermicro need checking - thank you!
I too prefer the slab-with-lip form, if only because it is the most distinct and recognizable one.facetsesame wrote: ↑ For the keyboard itself, to date I've had the slab-with-lip form of the earlier boards in mind as the form. The key layout however is very much open. Personally I would prefer a big, 122-scale layout but I feel something smaller might be more practical.
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Looks like there's some additional interest for the Dasher colorway keycaps.
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DG related, did anyone else notice that Dell is buying EMC? For those not aware, EMC bought Data General back in... 1999, I believe.
That would give Dell whatever IP from Data General that EMC didn't ditch. Dell seems a better company to deal with than EMC (they were pretty much crap with Data General's other stuff as they just wanted the Clariion storage and bought the entire company just for the storage).
Come to think of it, I might strike up a conversation with the Simh folks. Getting versions of AOS going would be fascinating. We could probably have some fun and tie in an Eclipse S/140 dipswitch box into a computer running Simh and have the full blown Dasher keyboard there to boot. Might be fun.
That would give Dell whatever IP from Data General that EMC didn't ditch. Dell seems a better company to deal with than EMC (they were pretty much crap with Data General's other stuff as they just wanted the Clariion storage and bought the entire company just for the storage).
Come to think of it, I might strike up a conversation with the Simh folks. Getting versions of AOS going would be fascinating. We could probably have some fun and tie in an Eclipse S/140 dipswitch box into a computer running Simh and have the full blown Dasher keyboard there to boot. Might be fun.
- Muirium
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- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
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Michael Dell bought back his company a year or two ago. That's why they're waking up again. When founders leave, companies flounder until they return. Which spells trouble for Microsoft as much as Apple these days. Fortunately, Nadella and Cook are both leagues ahead of the dingalings that ran Dell while the dude himself wasn't there. Ballmer… not so much.
I wonder when he's running for president. Carly Fiorina needs a running mate. It takes a rare business talent to match her.
I wonder when he's running for president. Carly Fiorina needs a running mate. It takes a rare business talent to match her.
- Muirium
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It's called profit.
Unlike me to defend Dell, but you know a company is doing things wrong if customers like you are completely happy. Or me. The Topre equipped MacBook Max would be a hard sell beyond the mech keyboard community! And even then, only half of us would buy it, and everyone would bitch about a million different details.
Unlike me to defend Dell, but you know a company is doing things wrong if customers like you are completely happy. Or me. The Topre equipped MacBook Max would be a hard sell beyond the mech keyboard community! And even then, only half of us would buy it, and everyone would bitch about a million different details.
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Filco ZERO green alps, Model F 122 Terminal
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I have nothing against there eterprise grade laptops and desktops, i think they are good value.
Its there servers, they have crappy consumer grade chipsets in them.
HP can do it IBM can do it , oracle can do it, hell supermicro can do it. But why not dell ( and apple RIP Xserve )
Its there servers, they have crappy consumer grade chipsets in them.
HP can do it IBM can do it , oracle can do it, hell supermicro can do it. But why not dell ( and apple RIP Xserve )
- facetsesame
- Mad Dasher
- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Ducky Legend
- Main mouse: CST L-Trac
- Favorite switch: MX red for linear, white for click
- DT Pro Member: 0092
Sorry I haven't been around for the last month or so. As ever, I can't continuously devote the amount of time and resources I'd like to to projects like this. Realistically this isn't likely to change before the new year, though I really should still make the effort to pop in and say hi!
Thanks as ever for your input and feedback. To make public thoughts I've had for months, I'd really like to see these keys in rsbseb's SCM profile, and I'd really like to help develop his project through this. As for the replica keyboard, I'd been gravitating towards two designs, one small, one big - perhaps a 60% and a 122 a few with extra bells and whistles (though I'd reserve mad scientist sci-fi prop minicomputer levels of kitting out for another project...)
morkl, your reference pics are excellent. I have one more set of SP's blue ABS colour chips I can send to you if you're up for some comparison pics.
Thanks as ever for your input and feedback. To make public thoughts I've had for months, I'd really like to see these keys in rsbseb's SCM profile, and I'd really like to help develop his project through this. As for the replica keyboard, I'd been gravitating towards two designs, one small, one big - perhaps a 60% and a 122 a few with extra bells and whistles (though I'd reserve mad scientist sci-fi prop minicomputer levels of kitting out for another project...)
morkl, your reference pics are excellent. I have one more set of SP's blue ABS colour chips I can send to you if you're up for some comparison pics.
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- Location: Sweden
- Main keyboard: Custom 60%
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- Favorite switch: MX Ergo Clear
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The D2 seems to have a different font than the D400. E.g straight vs. squiggly line in the Q and completely different threes and zeroes. So top down pictures for comparison/reference would be great!
Sure thing! Hit me up with a PMfacetsesame wrote: ↑morkl, your reference pics are excellent. I have one more set of SP's blue ABS colour chips I can send to you if you're up for some comparison pics.