Hi,
scans of an old NTC brochure. I didn't google the FTC numbers but it should be from a CeBit visit in the late eighties/early nineties.
http://www.frs635.com/keyboard/ntc000hires.jpg
http://www.frs635.com/keyboard/ntc001hires.jpg
Note the "Delet" key and no web address.
Grrr, just realized there's something cut off at the bottom. Scanned it like 5 times until it wasn't overlit anymore and then this.
Old NTC brochure
- Daniel Beardsmore
- Location: Hertfordshire, England
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 1 (home)/Poker II backlit (work)
- Main mouse: MS IMO 1.1
- Favorite switch: Probably not whatever I wrote here
- DT Pro Member: -
- Contact:
FCC ID lookup is here, if you need it: http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/ — I reference that a lot.
It's interesting that they claim to have "NTC" mechanical switches. All evidence so far indicates that the switches are from Himake, which means that they were passing off Himake switches as their own, or that they owned Himake, or that they were making very similar switches.
I can't ask Nan Tan as they're long gone (part of Clevo now, apparently).
It's also interesting that they list pairs of switches side by side. My suspicion is that Ortek offered two price tiers, SX (genuine Alps) and FX (Alps clones), so maybe that's what Nan Tan were doing with the KB-6151: Alps or "NTC". But what about Omron and Futaba, being both Japanese? Why would anyone choose one over the other? Having never used a keyboard with either switch, I cannot even speculate.
(It may be that the clone switches are all unbranded for a reason: to willingly allow for companies who want to claim they made them, like Strong Man did with anything they could get their hands on that wasn't branded.)
The KB-5060N looks really nice — just add two more F keys, Windows and Fn (plus a nice Fn layer) and put an ISO enter key on it :)
It's interesting that they claim to have "NTC" mechanical switches. All evidence so far indicates that the switches are from Himake, which means that they were passing off Himake switches as their own, or that they owned Himake, or that they were making very similar switches.
I can't ask Nan Tan as they're long gone (part of Clevo now, apparently).
It's also interesting that they list pairs of switches side by side. My suspicion is that Ortek offered two price tiers, SX (genuine Alps) and FX (Alps clones), so maybe that's what Nan Tan were doing with the KB-6151: Alps or "NTC". But what about Omron and Futaba, being both Japanese? Why would anyone choose one over the other? Having never used a keyboard with either switch, I cannot even speculate.
(It may be that the clone switches are all unbranded for a reason: to willingly allow for companies who want to claim they made them, like Strong Man did with anything they could get their hands on that wasn't branded.)
The KB-5060N looks really nice — just add two more F keys, Windows and Fn (plus a nice Fn layer) and put an ISO enter key on it :)
- Nuum
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: KBD8X Mk I (60g Clears), Phantom (Nixdorf Blacks)
- Main mouse: Corsair M65 PRO RGB
- Favorite switch: 60g MX Clears/Brown Alps/Buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0084
Yes, indeed that would be awesome! I somehow like this IBM PC AT layout.Daniel Beardsmore wrote: ↑The KB-5060N looks really nice — just add two more F keys, Windows and Fn (plus a nice Fn layer) and put an ISO enter key on it
- seebart
- Offtopicthority Instigator
- Location: Germany
- Main keyboard: Rotation
- Main mouse: Steelseries Sensei
- Favorite switch: IBM capacitive buckling spring
- DT Pro Member: 0061
- Contact:
my KB-6151 does not have those fat directional arrow symbols like the one in the picture.The rest of the caps look the same. I wish mine was new like that.
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- Location: US
- Main keyboard: Whitefox Zealios 67g
- Main mouse: Logitech G900
- Favorite switch: Alps Orange
- DT Pro Member: -
Not sure if more is known now, but I am also confused. I will just link over to the other thread to keep things tidy. keyboards-f2/identify-this-keyboard-thr ... ml#p398893Daniel Beardsmore wrote: ↑FCC ID lookup is here, if you need it: http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/ea/fccid/ — I reference that a lot.
It's interesting that they claim to have "NTC" mechanical switches. All evidence so far indicates that the switches are from Himake, which means that they were passing off Himake switches as their own, or that they owned Himake, or that they were making very similar switches.
I can't ask Nan Tan as they're long gone (part of Clevo now, apparently).
It's also interesting that they list pairs of switches side by side. My suspicion is that Ortek offered two price tiers, SX (genuine Alps) and FX (Alps clones), so maybe that's what Nan Tan were doing with the KB-6151: Alps or "NTC". But what about Omron and Futaba, being both Japanese? Why would anyone choose one over the other? Having never used a keyboard with either switch, I cannot even speculate.
(It may be that the clone switches are all unbranded for a reason: to willingly allow for companies who want to claim they made them, like Strong Man did with anything they could get their hands on that wasn't branded.)
The KB-5060N looks really nice — just add two more F keys, Windows and Fn (plus a nice Fn layer) and put an ISO enter key on it