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This one is so very old.
I like this MX518 mouse.
In these day...I can't get this anymore...
Well, if you cant perceive the difference between angle snapping + 125hz and minimal angle snapping and 1000hz you frankly dont need a gaming mouse.davkol wrote: ↑No, it isn't as long as it doesn't perceivably limit the users. "Moral" obsolescence is bullshit.
Well, then there are quite a few machines out there, regardless of that, polling rate affects the smoothness of mousemovement alot because for example 1000hz syncs up better with 100hz(monitor refresh) than 125hz. Not to mention that AM010 is overall more responsive than the old Avago´s(including 3090, which is very old from a technical viewpoint).chzel wrote: ↑If you can discern 8ms vs 1ms of "lag" due to polling rate you are not a gamer, you are a machine.
Angle snapping maybe, polling rate...no...First of all you are most likely refresh rate limited. If you cannot see with better resolution than 17ms, you can't even begin to react fast enough for polling rate to be a major issue...
If you can reliably tell one from another in a ABX test, then by all means get a new mouse.
But don't fall for the trap of stats and specs and snake oil. Or the audiophiles might find you.
…and your logical fallacy is the false dilemma.
You are only reinforcing my point that the MX518 is obsolete, a lot of office mice already offer rebindable buttons and similar CPI. I also like how you are trying to sound smart by throwing "fancy" words around.davkol wrote: ↑…and your logical fallacy is the false dilemma.
A whole bunch of developers, architects, designers,… is getting "gaming" mice, because ofdespite the "edgy" design.
- mid-/high sensitivity on HiRes-/multiscreen setups,
- more shape options,
- extra buttons and on-board memory with support for macros,
Obsolete also means outdated, which the MX518 is.chzel wrote: ↑A product is not obsolete when a new and better one comes out.
It becomes obsolete when it can no longer perform it's original function good enough to satisfy the needs of the user.
Polling rate is easily identified simply by Cursorpath.chzel wrote: ↑ Really, just do an ABX test. It's easy,test both settings and then have a friend change the poll rate and see if you can find reliably which setting he used.
MLT04 is still one of the most responsive platforms with nearly zero anglesnapping, thats why, A3080 on the other Hand while being responsive has massive Angle snapping.chzel wrote: ↑ If you really need all the new bells and whistles, can you explain why A LOT of gamers still play and actively search for IME 3.0s?
I mean, it's just 400dpi and polling up to 500hz...should have been obsolete many moons ago.
Actually i play with 120hz and 240fps.chzel wrote: ↑ Also, do you routinely play on a 100hz monitor at 100fps? or is it more like 50-60 fps?
Been there, done that, also ping doesnt change the importance of cursorbehaviour, my point also wasnt about the 7ms, too many mice have latency similar to that anyway.chzel wrote: ↑ Any of this talk has a point only if we are talking offline gaming. Enter online and all bets are off. Your ping will almost certainly have more variation than the 7ms difference of 125/1000hz.
And the MX518 doesnt serve neither well according to the points he mentioned.chzel wrote: ↑ And davkol wasn't trying to sound smart. You were indeed ignoring the big grey area between.
So, what specific non-gaming mice have the shape and size of MX518? What specific non-gaming mice have multiplatform support for button remapping? What specific non-gaming mouse can be expected to last as long as the OP's MX518? What should the poor MX518 owners get to avoid using an outdated device and please the gods of consumerism?\/\/oll3 wrote: ↑You are only reinforcing my point that the MX518 is obsolete, a lot of office mice already offer rebindable buttons and similar CPI. I also like how you are trying to sound smart by throwing "fancy" words around.