Ergonomic keyboard parade
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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ergoLogic:
Northgate Omnikey Evolution:
Perfectouch:
Pace:
Typematrix:
Reveal:
DataHand Professional II, my favorite input device:
FingerWorks Touchstream:
FingerWorks Mini:
Kinesis Evolution:
Safetype:
μTRON:
IBM Model M15:
Cherry MX 5000:
Cherry V80-5000HAD prototype:
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Heh, you picked the only two rubber dome ergonomic keyboards I have.
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- Location: Iceland
- Main keyboard: Model M 1394946
- Favorite switch: Buckling Spring
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Yeah, I know. I don't like them because I think they are good boards, I like them because they are different and, quite frankly, ridiculouswebwit wrote:Heh, you picked the only two rubber dome ergonomic keyboards I have.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Because they are interesting. The rise of RSI was a driver for innovation.
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- Location: San Antonio, TX
- Main keyboard: Noppoo Choc Mini
- Favorite switch: Cherry Brown
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Marquardt Mini-Ergodirge wrote:I like the look of (first picture, far right, middle beige on)
It looks pretty cool if I do say so myself. It would look even nicer in an updated color-scheme, IMO.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Looks like a Stealth Fighter, but isn't very good.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Correct.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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That's the num/function pad of the Apple ergonomic keyboard next to it.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Yeah these suck.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
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Bad: TypeMatrix (put your hands in front of your chest, then stick forward. How comfortable), SafeType (floating arms are tiresome, one-size fits all, rubber domes), Apple Adjustable (not so adjustable, switches suck), Marquardt (one-not-so-comfortable size fits all, switches suck).
OK: Pace (nice adjustability), ergoLogic (mostly a collector's item, rubber dome), Northgate Evolution (great keyboard, but lacks adjustability), Perfectouch (nice green Alps), Fingerworks Touchstream (great mousing, only for a specific type of RSI as a keyboard).
Good: Kinesis Evolution (complicated Alps, split), Cherry 5000 (duh), Kinesis Advantage (lacks adjustabilty for highest class).
Excellent: uTron (innovative, Topre switches, split), IBM Model M15 (completely adjustable, buckling springs).
Best: DataHand Professional II. The keyboard rebooted as it should be.
OK: Pace (nice adjustability), ergoLogic (mostly a collector's item, rubber dome), Northgate Evolution (great keyboard, but lacks adjustability), Perfectouch (nice green Alps), Fingerworks Touchstream (great mousing, only for a specific type of RSI as a keyboard).
Good: Kinesis Evolution (complicated Alps, split), Cherry 5000 (duh), Kinesis Advantage (lacks adjustabilty for highest class).
Excellent: uTron (innovative, Topre switches, split), IBM Model M15 (completely adjustable, buckling springs).
Best: DataHand Professional II. The keyboard rebooted as it should be.
- Jim66
- Location: Bristol, UK
- Main keyboard: MacBook Pro
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
I don't own most of these boards... But I agree entirely with the way that you have categorized them.webwit wrote:Bad: TypeMatrix (put your hands in front of your chest, then stick forward. How comfortable), SafeType (floating arms are tiresome, one-size fits all, rubber domes), Apple Adjustable (not so adjustable, switches suck), Marquardt (one-not-so-comfortable size fits all, switches suck).
OK: Pace (nice adjustability), ergoLogic (mostly a collector's item, rubber dome), Northgate Evolution (great keyboard, but lacks adjustability), Perfectouch (nice green Alps), Fingerworks Touchstream (great mousing, only for a specific type of RSI as a keyboard).
Good: Kinesis Evolution (complicated Alps, split), Cherry 5000 (duh), Kinesis Advantage (lacks adjustabilty for highest class).
Excellent: uTron (innovative, Topre switches, split), IBM Model M15 (completely adjustable, buckling springs).
Best: DataHand Professional II. The keyboard rebooted as it should be.
- Trent
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- DT Pro Member: -
webwit, you've stated that the best is the datahand. I've seen the input folder photos where you have it mounted to the chair. Do you use it enough to where you are used to it? How much does the wpm increase from getting used to it?
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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I've been using it daily. I type around 80wpm both on the Datahand and ordinary keyboards. The Datahand is a bit faster, but my brain isn't.
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
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Maybe mouse related? I had the same thing once, cured by using my left hand for mousing. Less expensive than a DataHand.
- tsangan
- Main keyboard: HHKB Pro2
- Main mouse: DeathAdder
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
Just picked up my very first ergo board I got the chance to snatch up a MX5000, and I must say I quite enjoy this ergo business more then I ever thought I would.
Now going through webwit's list, since I have no intention of getting a DataHand I think I am going to for the uTron next, I must say you got a nice list going webwit!
Now going through webwit's list, since I have no intention of getting a DataHand I think I am going to for the uTron next, I must say you got a nice list going webwit!
- off
- Location: the crapper, NL, EU
- DT Pro Member: -
It appears that the M15 and the Omnikey Evolution also support this innovation!t!ng wrote:Typing on the SafeType like a boss: Using your DingDong and both hands for left,right and middle keypads ^^
@webwit: Only now noticed you rated both Kinesis as equals... which heavily surprises me, care to enlighten?
Is it really true for you with the adjustability of the split weighing so heavily (and ofcourse supporting chairmount ootb ) that it is about equal to the bowl-ed&collumn-staggered Advantage?
- Half-Saint
- Location: Slovenia, Europe
- Main keyboard: Raptor Gaming K1
- Main mouse: Logitech G5 Mk.2
- Favorite switch: Cherry MX Blue
- DT Pro Member: 0058
And I'm willing to bet that you haven't paid more than 50-100€ per board
- webwit
- Wild Duck
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: Model F62
- Favorite switch: IBM beam spring
- DT Pro Member: 0000
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The Advantage is completely fixed and not-adjustable. That's a big fail for an ergo keyboard, no matter what it does right. I'd love to see it split with adjustable feet, like a uTron.off wrote:@webwit: Only now noticed you rated both Kinesis as equals... which heavily surprises me, care to enlighten?
Is it really true for you with the adjustability of the split weighing so heavily (and ofcourse supporting chairmount ootb ) that it is about equal to the bowl-ed&collumn-staggered Advantage?
There are some great finds in there, but also some very expensive ones...Half-Saint wrote:And I'm willing to bet that you haven't paid more than 50-100€ per board
- guilleguillaume
- Location: Barcelona, Spain
- Main keyboard: Kmac Mini
- Main mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: -
I guess the uTron is one of themwebwit wrote:The Advantage is completely fixed and not-adjustable. That's a big fail for an ergo keyboard, no matter what it does right. I'd love to see it split with adjustable feet, like a uTron.off wrote:@webwit: Only now noticed you rated both Kinesis as equals... which heavily surprises me, care to enlighten?
Is it really true for you with the adjustability of the split weighing so heavily (and ofcourse supporting chairmount ootb ) that it is about equal to the bowl-ed&collumn-staggered Advantage?
There are some great finds in there, but also some very expensive ones...Half-Saint wrote:And I'm willing to bet that you haven't paid more than 50-100€ per board