Juki DATUM FK 201
- 002
- Topre Enthusiast
- Location: Australia
- Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
- Main mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0002
I've been trying to get a Juki keyboard for a long time. I think I've had a word filter notification setting for 'DATUM' and 'Celavi' (the Juki Topre keyboards) for about 2 years now and for the first time, about 2.5 weeks ago, I finally got the e-mail. A full Juki DATUM data entry system for ~$200. I only wanted the keyboard really but I figured it would be cool to own the system, especially given their rarity. It turns out that shipping a full system including CRT monitor from Japan is very expensive, but I really don't want to talk about that
Some of you probably know that Juki make sewing machines. I didn't know that until I knew that they had Topre keyboards and started doing some research on them. Janome were always much more popular over here. Juki's DATUM data entry machines were superseded by the Celavi some time in early 2000s. The first appearance of a dedicated data entry page on their website was in November 2002 and detailed some of the benefits of Celavi over the previous DATUM systems. I think the DATUM was probably around since the early to mid 90's, similar to the Hatsucoh data entry machines.
Anyway, enough history -- here's the keyboard. *Warning* some images might be a bit gross to some
Some sort of funk left over from adhesive? Originally I thought it was burnt but it seems that it can be chipped off.
Funk close-up
Vintage Japanese lint from the pockets of the soul crushed data entry girl.
Some of you probably know that Juki make sewing machines. I didn't know that until I knew that they had Topre keyboards and started doing some research on them. Janome were always much more popular over here. Juki's DATUM data entry machines were superseded by the Celavi some time in early 2000s. The first appearance of a dedicated data entry page on their website was in November 2002 and detailed some of the benefits of Celavi over the previous DATUM systems. I think the DATUM was probably around since the early to mid 90's, similar to the Hatsucoh data entry machines.
Anyway, enough history -- here's the keyboard. *Warning* some images might be a bit gross to some
Some sort of funk left over from adhesive? Originally I thought it was burnt but it seems that it can be chipped off.
Funk close-up
Vintage Japanese lint from the pockets of the soul crushed data entry girl.
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What are the switches at the top of the keyboard used for?
Is it something Japanese board specific?
Is it something Japanese board specific?
- 002
- Topre Enthusiast
- Location: Australia
- Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
- Main mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0002
Haha! I am pretty confident I can restore this thing, although it looks bad. The "crust" at the top comes off, as does the carbon on the caps, and the case can be retr0brighted.Grond wrote: ↑Looking at the state of the keyboard, I guess Juki is japanese for Junkie
I think so although I haven't looked into it yet. They are likely related to aspects of data entry and I am guessing they serve similar purposes to the ones on the Hatsucoh: http://deskthority.net/wiki/Hatsucoh_El ... escriptionUncleleech wrote: ↑What are the switches at the top of the keyboard used for?
Is it something Japanese board specific?
- photekq
- Cherry Picker
- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Various Cherry Corp keyboards
- Main mouse: Razer Deathadder (1st gen)
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black (55g springs)
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Very cool board. Nice photos too!
So Topre HiPro isn't something new at all?
So Topre HiPro isn't something new at all?
- 002
- Topre Enthusiast
- Location: Australia
- Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
- Main mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0002
Thanks man; your photos are always great so it's nice to hear that from you.
The Hi-Pro switch has indeed been around for a long time, at least as far back as 1995. The sticker on this one is a '5' too which would suggest that the board was made then. The first I knew of the Hi-Pro switch was in the [wiki]Nissho KB106DE[/wiki] and I think that the Nissho was the last Hi-Pro board before Topre started putting the switch on their Realforce keyboards for the 104UG, etc.
It's a great looking board with some tri-colour dyesub action happening on some of the keys. Definitely one of the jewels of my collection
The Hi-Pro switch has indeed been around for a long time, at least as far back as 1995. The sticker on this one is a '5' too which would suggest that the board was made then. The first I knew of the Hi-Pro switch was in the [wiki]Nissho KB106DE[/wiki] and I think that the Nissho was the last Hi-Pro board before Topre started putting the switch on their Realforce keyboards for the 104UG, etc.
It's a great looking board with some tri-colour dyesub action happening on some of the keys. Definitely one of the jewels of my collection
- photekq
- Cherry Picker
- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Various Cherry Corp keyboards
- Main mouse: Razer Deathadder (1st gen)
- Favorite switch: Nixdorf 'Soft Touch' MX Black (55g springs)
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Oh wow.. Now that Nissho is a beauty! Those dyesubs are amazing, especially the blue/green side-print.
- 002
- Topre Enthusiast
- Location: Australia
- Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
- Main mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless
- Favorite switch: Topre
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Taking the caps off this evening I found something I didn't know.
Normal Topre switches for the bottom row. I never bothered to check this on the Nissho or the Hatsucoh. I wonder if the modern Hi-Pro boards have the same thing?
'G' key cleaned up nicely too -- check it out in the original shots
Normal Topre switches for the bottom row. I never bothered to check this on the Nissho or the Hatsucoh. I wonder if the modern Hi-Pro boards have the same thing?
'G' key cleaned up nicely too -- check it out in the original shots
- Daniel Beardsmore
- Location: Hertfordshire, England
- Main keyboard: Filco Majestouch 1 (home)/Poker II backlit (work)
- Main mouse: MS IMO 1.1
- Favorite switch: Probably not whatever I wrote here
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What's the difference between normal and Hi-Pro? The switches seem to be the same size, so is the slider just better supported with Hi-Pro to reduce wobble with taller caps?
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
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Hopefully it does indeed add some support, because the downside of the buggers is they really get in the way of using non HiPro caps:
Mind, I essentially use high profile caps on the Novatouch with low profile slider housings, and have found no problem with wobble there.
Mind, I essentially use high profile caps on the Novatouch with low profile slider housings, and have found no problem with wobble there.
- Kurk
- Location: Sauce Hollondaise (=The Netherlands)
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Advantage // Filco MJ2 + HID liberation
- Main mouse: ITAC Mousetrak Professional
- DT Pro Member: 0027
I can confirm normal height switches in the bottom row of the Realforce Hi-Pro. The arrow cluster and numpad have tall switches though.
Sorry for the potato pic.
Sorry for the potato pic.
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- 002
- Topre Enthusiast
- Location: Australia
- Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
- Main mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0002
Thanks Kurk. If you're feeling up to it some time, I'd also like to know if they are still putting washers around the space bar's stabiliser sliders.
- 002
- Topre Enthusiast
- Location: Australia
- Main keyboard: Realforce & Libertouch
- Main mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless
- Favorite switch: Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0002
A laundry basin, hot water and about 2 caps of BioZet Attack.
I let it soak for about 20 minutes then had at it with a nylon brush. The smell was very offensive ...
Replaced the water and repeated the process twice until only very stubborn flecks remained which I used my thumbnail to remove.
I let it soak for about 20 minutes then had at it with a nylon brush. The smell was very offensive ...
Replaced the water and repeated the process twice until only very stubborn flecks remained which I used my thumbnail to remove.
- Muirium
- µ
- Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
- Main keyboard: HHKB Type-S with Bluetooth by Hasu
- Main mouse: Apple Magic Mouse
- Favorite switch: Gotta Try 'Em All
- DT Pro Member: µ
That's more or less my bike derailer cleaning procedure. It has the excuse to be filthy of riding just above the road, while the Juki, well, let's not dwell on it…
- Kurk
- Location: Sauce Hollondaise (=The Netherlands)
- Main keyboard: Kinesis Advantage // Filco MJ2 + HID liberation
- Main mouse: ITAC Mousetrak Professional
- DT Pro Member: 0027
No washers to be seen in my 104UG HiPro.002 wrote: ↑Thanks Kurk. If you're feeling up to it some time, I'd also like to know if they are still putting washers around the space bar's stabiliser sliders.
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- Location: Greece
- Main keyboard: HHKB
- Main mouse: Rival 600
- Favorite switch: topre
OOF lets wake the dead, what happened next to this board? is 002 still around? if yes please contact me, i need some of your help