IBM Model F XT UK Layout restoration
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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Hey guys I have finally found an IBM Model F keyboard with a UK layout and just got done restoring it
Here's the picture of the fully restored Keyboard let me know what you think.
Thanks.
Here's the picture of the fully restored Keyboard let me know what you think.
Thanks.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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This picture is the before grubby condition.
Sorry about the different background but you can still see the dirt.
Sorry about the different background but you can still see the dirt.
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good job!
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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It wasn't really bad but I think I will replace it later on down the line but I did not as I did not have anything to replace it with.
I will post some more pictures tonight of the foam and other parts.
I will post some more pictures tonight of the foam and other parts.
Last edited by Fkazim on 07 Nov 2018, 13:44, edited 1 time in total.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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Thanks green-squid it was a lot of work but so worth it
- digital_matthew
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: Ellipse Model F62
- Main mouse: It's a Secret.
- Favorite switch: Capacative Buckling Spring
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Looking good. It's amazing how well the old IBMs clean up.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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Yeah it is IBM were the best back in the day 100 times better compared to the cheap rubbish you get nowadays.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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My backplate was in fantastic condition for its age here's a picture of that.
Notice theres NO rust!
Notice theres NO rust!
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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And for those wondering here's a photo of the manafacturers label on the back of the keyboard
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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I also did the space bar mod where you make the actuation force on the space bar less as by default you have to really slam the space bar and I did not like the feel of that.
To do this mod you have to completely disassemble the keyboard as the space bar stabaliser is sandwiched between the barrel plate and bottom plate.
I then had to use fishing line to pull the space bar buckling Spring down whilst sliding the 2 plates back together this was very frustrating but very worth it in the end.
To do this mod you have to completely disassemble the keyboard as the space bar stabaliser is sandwiched between the barrel plate and bottom plate.
I then had to use fishing line to pull the space bar buckling Spring down whilst sliding the 2 plates back together this was very frustrating but very worth it in the end.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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Here is the picture of the original foam let me know if it needs replacing at this point.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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Here is a picture of the IBM badge
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Planck
- Main mouse: Cyborg Rat 7
- Favorite switch: Alps skcm white
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The real test will be if it will work when you get the converter. If your foam has degraded which may be the case then there may be foam residue on the capacitive pads so you will get poor response from key presses
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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Ok when the convertor comes if all is good I will post it here if there is problems then I will replace the foam and take pictures along the way and post them here.
Any recommendations about the foam like type sizes good brands?
Thanks.
Any recommendations about the foam like type sizes good brands?
Thanks.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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Ok thanks for the info really appreciate it. Any specific thickness?
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- Location: UK
- Main keyboard: Planck
- Main mouse: Cyborg Rat 7
- Favorite switch: Alps skcm white
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you want about 3 or 4mm but it needs to be compressible down to about 2mm as it will be compressed strongest at the top and bottom less so in the middle but it still neds to hold the barrel plate in place
- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
That seems way too thick. I would have halved those numbers with a fairly firm foam.Anakey wrote: ↑
you want about 3 or 4mm but it needs to be compressible down to about 2mm as it will be compressed strongest at the top and bottom less so in the middle but it still neds to hold the barrel plate in place
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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Ok thanks for all the advice guys will be sure to keep those figures in mind when I go to buy or salvage some foam from somewhere else.
- OldIsNew
- Location: US
- DT Pro Member: 0248
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
- DT Pro Member: -
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thanks very helpful will check it out
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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Had a look and as I live in the UK shipping costs would be too high but I did find something similar would this be a good replacement foam for my IBM model F?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 3062945336
I would buy it in 3mm thickness.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 3062945336
I would buy it in 3mm thickness.
- OldIsNew
- Location: US
- DT Pro Member: 0248
I would think the foam itself would be good - as long as you can compress it enough. I've found 1/16 " foam works well. Apparently that's 1.5875 mm - so with 3 mm might be a bit tough to get the board closed again.
It's just so complicated with all this "metric" stuff!
It's just so complicated with all this "metric" stuff!
- fohat
- Elder Messenger
- Location: Knoxville, Tennessee, USA
- Main keyboard: Model F 122-key terminal
- Main mouse: Microsoft Optical Mouse
- Favorite switch: Model F Buckling Spring
- DT Pro Member: 0158
"Art Foam" from Michael's Art Supply is 1/16" but it is actually rather firm, while eventually compressing nicely with enough force. My opinion is that a thinner, firmer foam is preferable to a thicker, softer type.
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- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Modded IBM Model F AT
- Main mouse: Mionix Naos 8200
- Favorite switch: Capacitive Buckling Springs
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OK thanks i will keep that in mind.