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by squizzler
Yesterday, 19:29
Forum: Reviews
Topic: Clarity hand wash dispenser review
Replies: 4
Views: 125

Re: Clarity hand wash dispenser review

Grr, I had intended to include such a picture but the phone 'back-focussed' on the work surface!
by squizzler
Yesterday, 17:20
Forum: Reviews
Topic: Clarity hand wash dispenser review
Replies: 4
Views: 125

Re: Clarity hand wash dispenser review

I realised that but, frustratingly, it only occurred to me today!

Stay safe everyone.
by squizzler
Yesterday, 16:45
Forum: Reviews
Topic: Clarity hand wash dispenser review
Replies: 4
Views: 125

Clarity hand wash dispenser review

Keyboard: Clarity Juniper and Seaweed Aromatherapy Hand Wash Switch brand: Roma? Type: Linear, analogue Sense method: Hydraulic Total travel = 12mm Actuation point = 1mm Actuation force = 1200g (!!) Keycaps = N/A As reflects the low purchase price, the keyboard case is a PET plastic bottle which doe...
by squizzler
12 Mar 2020, 20:20
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: i need some help designing a new computer keyboard
Replies: 6
Views: 448

Re: i need some help designing a new computer keyboard

But it's not spamming us about dubious products...
by squizzler
12 Mar 2020, 19:09
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: i need some help designing a new computer keyboard
Replies: 6
Views: 448

Re: i need some help designing a new computer keyboard

There are numerous places that claim to have invented optimal layouts. Wikipedia lists several alternative layouts. Unfortunately the commitment in becoming proficient means you can't just take a few layouts for a proverbial spin round the block and decide which you prefer so you are at the mercy of...
by squizzler
10 Mar 2020, 22:19
Forum: Deskthority wiki talk
Topic: Kailh PG1593 series
Replies: 1
Views: 192

Kailh PG1593 series

I have expanded on this page and added pictures. I would be delighted if anybody wishes to review.

Would the article be more accessible if the page were titled "Kailh KO" as that seems to be the informal name given?
by squizzler
05 Mar 2020, 13:51
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Ideal keycap mount?
Replies: 18
Views: 1368

Re: Ideal keycap mount?

It is hardly surprising so many of us suffer ergonomic issues - the above diagram appears to suggest the edge with the F-keys should be facing the user. :P The space invader is getting a lot of votes, and it does look like it affords the switch designer the options to put more of the mechanism insid...
by squizzler
05 Mar 2020, 08:30
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Ideal keycap mount?
Replies: 18
Views: 1368

Re: Ideal keycap mount?

The assumption here is that stack height is not good. Why is that? All other things being equal, it is better for the keyboard to be lower to the desk. We may look at youtube reviews of classic keyboards and think that your board needs to be unmanageably bulky to be taken seriously, like those moto...
by squizzler
04 Mar 2020, 12:16
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Ideal keycap mount?
Replies: 18
Views: 1368

Re: Ideal keycap mount?

Are you sure the KO preceded the SteelSeries rather than the other way round? The wiki on the KO dates from 2017 and that for the SteelSeries is two years older. Also the article claims the Steelseries unit is based on a "1583" series and the KO is "1593" series, and the KO's debut board - AFAIK - w...
by squizzler
04 Mar 2020, 10:27
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Ideal keycap mount?
Replies: 18
Views: 1368

Re: Ideal keycap mount?

Whatever happened to the Kailh KO family? It has a hollow "light well" stem just like the Omron B3K, and stem that looks to incorporate Kailh's "Box" design. it seems to have arrived as a competitor to the Omron, so presumably able to refine on the design of the latter. Best of all there is a click ...
by squizzler
02 Mar 2020, 18:17
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Variable weighting, potentially analog switch interest check
Replies: 10
Views: 628

Re: Variable weighting, potentially analog switch interest check

I have previously spent an idle moment speculating as to whether a pneumatic 'spring' could be used in keyboard switches. This would make it very easy to adjust the resistance: simply adjust the pressure until you get a spring rate that suits, just like a mountain biker will tune their bicycle suspe...
by squizzler
26 Feb 2020, 08:53
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Diy tkl keyboard!
Replies: 21
Views: 982

Re: Diy tkl keyboard!

The flavour of the day seems to be the Steelseries Apex which is a hall effect. It you search Chyos' youtube channel he says they are some of the smoothest has has come across. I recommend the latter for overview of the alternative designs (optical/hall/capacitive) entering the market. The benefit o...
by squizzler
25 Feb 2020, 22:30
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Diy tkl keyboard!
Replies: 21
Views: 982

Re: Diy tkl keyboard!

Get the impression you are fixated with these so-called cream switches (which I see from Novelkeys website are linear action Cherry MX clone marketed as especially smooth in operation), but have you considered the non-contact (i.e. capacitive or hall effect) models that have recently entered the mar...
by squizzler
24 Feb 2020, 16:13
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Diy tkl keyboard!
Replies: 21
Views: 982

Re: Diy tkl keyboard!

I am into so-called ergonomic keyboards and find that self building seems to be a major part of that field. As for the traditional style boards I am not so sure there is any need to sully your own hands with a soldering iron. I have never built one but would certainly consider one that just requires...
by squizzler
19 Feb 2020, 11:47
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: reverse force switch interest
Replies: 11
Views: 612

Re: reverse force switch interest

Would anyone be interested in a "reverse force" switch? Example of what I mean in the pictures. There's a few things every typical switch does that this type of switch would do differently Switches are supposed to start their force curve at the top rest point. They rarely do, I find there's half ou...
by squizzler
17 Feb 2020, 21:31
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Do you type properly?
Replies: 81
Views: 6209

Re: Do you type properly?

I am now running a Minidox loaded with the RSTHD layout. Never having been bothered about correct position on the Qwerty layout it is not hard to keep your fingers on the home row of this setup due to a carrot and stick approach. The carrot is that the layout is so efficient where else would your ha...
by squizzler
16 Feb 2020, 13:15
Forum: News
Topic: daskeyboard product management
Replies: 40
Views: 2540

Re: daskeyboard product management

I'll add: the direction that Kiibohd is going is to use HID-IO. I haven't looked too closely but I think this involves a boot interface and a sideband that is way more robust, and talks to a host side driver and daemon. That way you can get native shifted characters, native Unicode input, modifiers...
by squizzler
15 Feb 2020, 12:30
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Cherry Viola switch
Replies: 22
Views: 1669

Re: Cherry Viola switch

Updated cherry MY? Yuck! If these are intended for budget boards then i'm afraid they'll feel horrible to consumers. What makes you think that? Most consumers will only ever have used generic membrane boards or touchscreens. Thats all Cherry have to beat. Many of us who have tried to evangelise 'pr...
by squizzler
10 Feb 2020, 10:29
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Looking for long key-travel + clicky/tactile switch recommendations
Replies: 4
Views: 434

Re: Looking for long key-travel + clicky/tactile switch recommendations

If you have tried various switch designs then just pick one that works for you, you are asking us to decide what can only feel right subjectively for you. As for key travel, if this is the most important to you then 4 mm is that of the classic Cherrry range and seems to be pretty much the maximum th...
by squizzler
09 Feb 2020, 09:13
Forum: Deskthority wiki talk
Topic: Rationalisation of Omron B3K pages
Replies: 8
Views: 1096

Re: Rationalisation of Omron B3K pages

Nice one. I have put on a couple of the Gamma Zulu pictures kindly offered by @XMIT, it could probably do with more in the fullness of time, but perhaps we don't want to overload readers - or their connections - with to many images!
by squizzler
03 Feb 2020, 10:43
Forum: Deskthority wiki talk
Topic: Rationalisation of Omron B3K pages
Replies: 8
Views: 1096

Re: Rationalisation of Omron B3K pages

Hmm.. Daniel Beardsmore seems to be writing more keyboard info on his own web site than contributing to the Deskthority wiki these days. There is an article about the B3K , already with links to XMIT's pictures. I see from the linked page that there is a version made for Creative Labs (the so-calle...
by squizzler
01 Feb 2020, 11:35
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Ideal keycap mount?
Replies: 18
Views: 1368

Re: Ideal keycap mount?

I found a page in the Wiki withe the various types of mount listed. The terminology for my favoured design is 'snap on', apparently. ... with appropriate short skirt keycaps that omit the ribs they would sit by my estimation half a centimetre lower. The Omron's keycaps would then have to be wider at...
by squizzler
27 Jan 2020, 13:14
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Ideal keycap mount?
Replies: 18
Views: 1368

Re: Ideal keycap mount?

Slightly funny thing about the Omron B3K series (Romer-G, Gamma Zulu) is that the mounting tabs in the keycaps have ribs that support the caps some distance above the slider. This is interesting because it implies that the currently available keycaps increase the stack height to where it would sit i...
by squizzler
26 Jan 2020, 14:37
Forum: Deskthority wiki talk
Topic: Rationalisation of Omron B3K pages
Replies: 8
Views: 1096

Re: Rationalisation of Omron B3K pages

This video seems to imply that the Das and Logitech are part of the same B3K series. In fact the low profile switch that form the real subject of the video is called the B3KL which positions it - at least as far as the marketing is concerned - as part of the family too, but of course this does belon...
by squizzler
26 Jan 2020, 12:05
Forum: Deskthority wiki talk
Topic: Rationalisation of Omron B3K pages
Replies: 8
Views: 1096

Rationalisation of Omron B3K pages

The Logitech Romer-G and Das Gamma Zulu each have pages in the Wiki. However these are both part of Omron's B3K series. Should both these pages be merged into one page that covers the B3K and its variants? And if so, how is the best way to go about it?
by squizzler
26 Jan 2020, 07:46
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Omron Factory Tour
Replies: 13
Views: 1429

Re: Re:

Ugly design but those switches are unique despite failing upon their earlier releases. They've got the tactility just right with spring application. I'm not sure how you define 'failing'. I would be willing to bet that Logitech and Daskeyboard each sell orders of magnitude more of these (simply by ...
by squizzler
25 Jan 2020, 21:54
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Omron Factory Tour
Replies: 13
Views: 1429

Re: Omron Factory Tour

In recent months a rather better video than provided by the OP has been produced. Here we are introduced to the low profile switches Omron have developed for laptops.
by squizzler
13 Jan 2020, 15:02
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Cherry Viola switch
Replies: 22
Views: 1669

Re: Cherry Viola switch

I think this is positive in that they try to reach new audiences and grow the market. This is arguably more intelligent than what Kailh et. al. are doing, which is to keep producing endless variations on the same themes. The latter may gain more street cred on DT forums but ultimately if the same si...
by squizzler
13 Jan 2020, 12:29
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Ideal keycap mount?
Replies: 18
Views: 1368

Re: Ideal keycap mount?

It depends on what you are going for. Is max stability more important than shine through lighting for example? In my opinion, fastening to the inside-edge of the keycap improves on designs that use a central stem and socket in both these aspects. In terms of stability I think the Fujitsu Leaf sprin...
by squizzler
12 Jan 2020, 13:54
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Ideal keycap mount?
Replies: 18
Views: 1368

Ideal keycap mount?

I am interested in whether there is an optimal design of interface by which the keycap is mounted on the switch. The problem with MX and Alps is that the plug and socket by which the keycap mounts is directly over the switch mechanism. This creates what I would call additional 'stack height'. Thats'...

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