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I especially like how the 2* keys are stabilized with a dummy switch: sometimes they just have one switch in the middle instead (notice the keycap supports both configurations).

Great find, Glad you got it. I remember when it was listed.

oh cool I was wodnering where this turned up. I had a chance to acquire one of these for $107 about a year or so ago, (after I figured out the part number) but passed it up. Good to see it's still in the community. I notice it has the cool bottom pan unlike the 1387033. Do you mind opening the case ...

I suppose those are third party caps made for a specific application. Is that an EMR KB I spy? sweet find! Upload images of the inside please, I want to compare it with the other EMR KBs I've seen pictures of. They could be IBM official caps, they do have a history of making slightly-yellow ABS cap...

If the switches are new, loose, or desodlered you can open them both at the same speed and with the same technique.

xwhatsit wrote: ↑Oh I see you guys have more or less figured out it's a different keyboard (a Model M version).

yeah it's this guy:
http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cf ... /id/474394

sweet find tinnie! There's only a few of those known to exist.

It's a good mnemonic. Almost too good! I honestly don't understand IBM's naming conventions at all, and any time I have to remember what something is called I go searching for its nickname instead! Thank goodness for Kishsavers and Great Whites. I like mnemonics. That's why I'm pushing for "pingmas...

Forget double shot PBT, I plan to make a hall effect KB like that with triple-shot keycaps.

Only the majesty of hall effect switches can fully encapsulate the ideal of the "huge terminal" keyboard.

Parak wrote: ↑ What 62 key? I have no 62 key pictures on my flickr

What's this then?
IMG_20140816_120431 by parakie, on Flickr

@Andrew: the letters F and M do in fact stand for something. Citation needed. I think Dorkvader was the first to explain this to me, back when I was very new to all this, via PM. Anyone with a proper printed IBM source is welcome to pipe up. I head that the F stood for 'flip-plate' and the M for 'm...

The only Kishsaver I'd buy! nah 62 key is where it is at, that 107 is tempting however The 107-key is the best of the 4704 keyboards by far. When I saw this on ebay, I was sad because I knew it'd get posted: This is the one keyboard (that currently exists) that I want the most. The good news is the...

Ahh older Ms are nice, i do need to get one at some point as i want to see how much better they are than the newer lexmark and unicomp Ms. I have a newer one and it just does not feel as good as it should, it feels kind of mushy to be honest kind of like a rubber dome, i don't know if mine is just ...

That TG3 PCB looks an awful lot like … whoever it is exactly who's making all these small Chinese keyboards like the Poker II (Vortex, or whoever they subcontract out to). Waffle ground planes are common: kinesis, TG3, Vortex use them now though there are differences. Firstly, the first several gen...

Always have to love a bit of PCB p**n Like the filtering on that cherry controller too :). But i must say i do like me some hand laid out PCBs Check out the PCB on the space cadet http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/space-cadet-keyboard-t1381.html Hand routed PCBs are sweet! This is from a hall effec...

Yes, I love opening a keyboard and findind a beautiful PCB inside. That's one reason I hate cherry. Their PCBs suck! Cherry is such a mixed bag of quality, It's hard to even begin. Their keycaps, cable, unnecessary RF paranoia, controller, etc are all very good, and either top tier or close to it. H...

That looks much better than mine, but I will have a look into the wiki later this week and see what pictures I can add there. It almost looks like dedalus put the contamination shield on the switches before installing them in the plate. I wonder if perhaps that's the best method. My plate has lots ...

SL89 wrote: ↑but WHY would they make the legends for the Symbols on the numrow the POM and not the Numbers...

This would be great on my code until Round 5 ships

What do you mean?

It's obvious that the entire legend is POM. The reason the top part is backlit is because that's the part directly above the LED.

JBert wrote: ↑I'm waiting for a Soarer converter for these...

hasu's TMK_firmware has a USB - to - USB converter code that you can use to reprogram it.
https://github.com/tmk/tmk_keyboard/tre ... er/usb_usb

It doens't support LED, but the novatouch I saw doesn't have those anyway.

wyse keycaps were made by comptec, who was bought out by SP when SP started.
http://www.solutionsinplastic.com/about_history.html

Such a nice keyboard!

The first one looks a lot like the olivetti rubber dome I have. It's very nice for domes; plate mounted and everything.

well I certainly wouldnt lube a foam&foil switch. The good news with hall effect is that they aren't very susceptible to liquid damage. I just put mineral oil on mine. I'm sure a lot of it will end up on the PCB, but it's not hurting anything there. I may re-apply with Krytox (an expensive fluorinat...

How weird! Those switches are a hybrid of Cherry MX (shell) and Mitsumi (switchplate). The AG-A850 sounds nice, too — deep and metallic. I have no idea what that switch is; I have assigned it a code [wiki]USw LABW01[/wiki]. Video control panels are a interesting and relatively unexplored topic. Son...

I All Wyse doubleshots are thin DCS profile by SP, as I remember. In fact I should have a picture of them next to Honeywells around here somewhere. SP didnt exist in 1984. WYSE used comptec to make their keycaps. Later, the comptec molds were purchased by SP, so the font, shape, etc. is the same. s...

At least he didnt use those lienar futaba switches the ohio scientific used at least since 1968.

#5 is an ICL: likely uses the ICL switch. not sure if the ICL at #4 uses it though.

2,3 on that racal board use microswitch (honeywell) hall effect switches, I didn't know racal used them (racal is british I think)

I would be interested in knowing if anyone here (including Xwhatsit, Soarer, Hasu, HaaTa, mr_a500, or others) has alternative ideas for a USB conversion as well as sources for keycaps** . you can get new keycaps for honeywell terminals from Signatureplastics. I have a few new ones they made with th...

Hello all! Keycon west is a keyboard convention for all keyboard enthusiasts. It is being hosted July 12-13 at the offices of 724support.com in MT View, CA. Tentative start time is 9:00 AM. The Original topic was posted at geekhack, and is linked below: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=54645.0 Th...

Wait, what has Filco got to do with Datacomp? (Plus, that being 2009, are those the 2KRO keyboards, with silver Filco logos?) that is the bluetooth filco. I have one I desoldered for someone. I guess Datacomp OEM'd it. I can take picturs if you like. It's the hardest thing I've ever had to desloder...

Not sure if this would be of interest to anyone, but there's a Sony BKE-9400A in this job lot which is in the wiki as having Topre switches. Unfortunately, it's too far away from me to be able to pick up and proxy if anyone does want it... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=301192...

Hall effect, like capsense, doesn't even need diodes as I understand. So hand wiring one of those would be a cakewalk! Custom PCBs are cool (and much easier to source than custom membranes, let alone membranes that have a chance in hell of lasting) but there's a certain solder fume induced magic to...

I wouldn't mind a Displaywriter; the layout looks pretty good, and it's probably no wider than a 122-key Model F? Being the last beamspring IBM made it should either be the peak of quality or the cheapest and nastiest. The Displaywriter is pretty small: it's only about 2-3 cm wider than an M. As fa...