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I know this an old post, but I'd like to contribute with some pictures (In case more people need to fix their upstoke-clicks in the future)


I think I found a way similar to this just now. I don't know if it works long term but bending the tabs at the bottom of the leaf outwards can fix the ...

Any ideas on what this is?

https://i.imgur.com/Vae9ZT3.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/SfqXCu1.jpeg

Here's a similar keyboard, but it seems to have the mounts broken off.

https://i.imgur.com/pW0A1TR.png

The keyboard also seems to have the exact same layout as this other post here (But with ...

I see you...



Great job though, almost didn't notice. Did you just chop off the stems?

PMed

Bolt mods are a lot of bother, I won't deny that! But they're not impossible or the realm of experts. Even I pulled one off! Plenty of folk swear by them as an essential long term maintenance technique for all Model Ms. I'm in no hurry to embark upon a second, however… :roll:


I'd agree with ...

Unfortunately, I don't know if there's a way to take out the flipper itself without taking apart the whole board. That being said...


I tried to resposition it with tweezers and then the key registers, but it ulimately gets out of alignment


I'm wondering if you could realign it, then do a ...

When enough of a Model M's rivets are broken, the barrel plate can break apart in the folds between the rows of keys and it can no longer be bolt-modded.


If you have a ruined soldering iron around, you can easily patch up a cracked barrel plate.
It does need a bit of precision, but otherwise ...

inozenz wrote: 14 Sep 2021, 17:21 do you know if its becasue of the membrane or the spring itself?

Afaik, it's the membrane sheets that heavily reduced its lifespan.
In practice after 35-ish years though, they aren't usually the cause of death for these Model Ms... ahem cough rivets cough ahem

I would probably cut the cushions away with a needle file instead of clippers.
True, it would be slower and a bit tedious, but not as slow as waiting for some replacement flippers to be shipped to me.


That could be a wiser method to this mod. Though, as you said, it takes a bit longer.
If you ...

https://i.imgur.com/gLiaEDH.jpeg

I read up on an interesting measurement Pandrew posted on the Discord server. He used a "package weighing hook" through his keytester to see just how much force it took to bottom out. He compared an original IBM keycap with a Unicomp keycap. (Of course with a ...

That being said, it still feels distinctly like a Model M. Expect a subtle upgrade, not a “transformation”.

But I will say that my Wheelwriter 5 which has the cushionless flippers feels pretty much identical to an F, except for in sound.


Oh damn, Interesting.
I just tried some F caps on my ...

Wow. Nice!

Does it change the apparent weight too? Does it make them lighter? If so how do they compare to an F?

I am tempted to try this.


Unfortunately not. The weighting remains the same.

Again, the only thing changing here is the bottom-out feel, which becomes quite similar to an F! :D ...

The following mod was discovered by Pandrew . Full credits to him for shedding light on this mod and sharing it!
I wouldn’t be surprised if this was discussed here before, but I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere outside of the r/ModelM Discord server, so here’s a guide for awareness!

In your ...

tiltowait wrote: 04 Aug 2021, 20:57 Is there any easy way to buy this in the US?

I had to send it through a proxy, which took a while before I got it in my hands.

Would've been a solid comparison if only you mentioned that it's specifically MX-only. Good video otherwise.

Someone should put them into those switch testers, so that we can all bask in the utmost Honor & Glory of Pinnacle Keyboard Engineering.

Since this is a very detailed and comprehensive Model M restoration guide I just wanted to suggest adding an additional technique which has not been been commonly used, the the "Model M Threaded Insert Mod" - https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22822

I personally think using threaded ...

With flawless and high detailed photos and videos, clear and easy-to-understand texts, well organized and easy to follow steps... A perfect guide to me. Good job!



Very comprehensive – great work.
Thank you.


Thanks a lot! Motivates me to work even more on it :D


Brilliant. I have yet to ...

Greetings!

I've recently compiled all my pictures and tips into one big "Model M Restoration" guide for all the experts & beginners out there.

I'm certain bolt/screw-modding is childs play to most people around here, but I thought I could share this to the few people who need a detailed guide with ...

I always go back to an M, but I recently got my new favourite. One that was really fit for the job of a "daily".

https://i.imgur.com/NB0ue0A.png

It's just a dirt-cheap Model M; perfect for the job in every single way.

I got better Model Ms in general, but this one is THE beater M for a ...

I got my hands on it

Go-Kart wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 18:36 Why not be the first yourself

(Rolls sleeves)
Just you wait

Bjerrk wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 08:05 Every keypress is an emotional rollercoaster. From depression to hysteresis and back again, it's a make or break world.

Beautiful.

Go-Kart wrote: 30 Jun 2021, 14:04 I can say that the switches don't resemble Buckling Springs in my experience.

Is there a force curve anywhere or a switch that feels similar to them?

I'm sure there are switches that replicate the gradual tactility of buckling springs, but I doubt they're common.
As far as common boards, I think I heard some people bring up the Fujitsu FKB4700. Can someone confirm or am I mistaking it for another board?
I've heard mixed feelings about them, but I ...

What is supposed to be in that left hole? I don't think I'm missing any spacers (ie. under certain keys) so is that hole just supposed to be left empty?


Some Ms came with split spacebars, like one of these

https://i.imgur.com/gCHJXUI.jpeg

On the topic of split spacebars, does anyone know if ...

raoulduke-esq wrote: 22 Jun 2021, 14:46 Do we know if the factories were open on Saturdays? Wondering if I'll ever find a birthday board...

I've set the weekends to be Saturdays and Sundays, since I guessed that's how it goes in the USA.
Then again, I'm clueless about how jobs work over there.

I did daily a 5251 full-time for a few months. I did love the keyfeel, solenoid, and the tanky build-quality, but I don't think they'll win your heart when coming from an F, especially a 122.

Thing is, as much as people love to glorify them, I don't think the keyfeel is that far off from an F.
It ...

Don't get a Dell AT101 (unless you get one of the very early, old logo ones).

Contrary to what most people say, I think these are a terrible introduction to Alps, unless you swap the switches, or miraculously get one that isn't bamboo Black. Late Alps tactiles are always worse than pine, and the ...

I am curious though, what exact variant do you have of the Acer? I have a 6311-KW made on 03/26/1996 (MM/DD/YYYY) and it doesn't have and scratchiness that I can detect? Did the quality of the switches drop as production went on? I'm curious because I've been trying to find another one and want to ...

Thanks for the suggestions! I have to do some further reading on Alps switches - there are so many that I often get confused. Are the dampening/clicking mods reversible? Any introductory material for the uninitiated?


The dampeners are reversible, and I personally find the bottoming out feel ...