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Can you please write up a tutorial on how to lube the model f? cheers

Just so you know OP, there is NO endgame keyboard. You're probably a youngen on this website and want to try the 'best' considered keyboard. But there is no. No such thing as the 'best' switch, 'endgame' switch nor 'holy grail' switch.

But hey, Capacitive buckling spring is life.

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This is probably the closest you are going to get to a horizontal return...

Damn. Can you assign two different keys to register the same command? And can you disable the key fully? Like the key will just not register anything if you press it? Cheers

Is there a way I can change the vertical return key to a horizontol return key on an XT?

That's the magic of the AT: it's essentially a keyboard layout experiment kit. There's a ton you can do with one. And it feels similar enough to an XT that I consider it a much more desirable piece of kit.

The XT can theoretically play the same games. You can open it up and move the springs ...

Thats an awesome layout you did with the remapping Murium! Do you think its possible to make an XT almost ANSI? Your AT seems pretty much ANSI and it looks awesome.

I should also use the numpad as a nav cluster.

Oh gosh. Just realised there are no arrow keys nor page up/down... Hahaha hopefully remapping the keys will allow somewhat a usable layout. Yeah I will hold onto my topre for a bit before hopefully settling into a Model F. I care more about key feel than actual layout so hopefully I can make do with ...

Will also be putting my topre up for sale soon after I compare it to the Model F and M. If anyone is interested in a like new 55g white 87U then hit me up before its up on the classifieds.

OK guys. I just plunged for an XT Model F. Was tested and was very clean (I'll do further cleaning once i receive it). I paid $75 for it + shipping. I didn't know whether to pick AT, XT or 122 so I just went for the XT as many of you said it was the best built and felt more 'crisp' and 'solid' than ...

I have a 2013 Nascita if you want. Fully working condition with original box and accessories. Like everyone says, its a below decent mouse that isn't worth the asking price. Yeah it looks cool on their website but the sensor isn't great at all. Comfort wise is probably its only above decent point ...

Wow Jou thats a nice 122 you got there! How did you remap those keys like that? And is it difficult to do? I really like how the shift and control are back to normal and your f keys are up there.

And what is the point of changing the foam inside a Model F about?

The XT is also far better made than the AT just saying :)

122 is the best option if you want it as close to ANSI as possible , i think there is a 122 up on eBay at the mo

Theres this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-F122-Keyboard-New-SOARERS-Converter-Adapter-ALL-KEYS-TESTED-WORKING ...

How are XT's better made then AT's?

I personally think the AT has the best layout as it is somewhat modernized if you know what I mean? The other layouts I guess would still work but are just slightly unorthodox to me.

Ahhhh which layout should I go for???

That's a relief to hear that only Model M's use the plastic rivets.

Should I plunge on this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/252019715141?_trksid=p2060353.m2763.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT - I negotiated the price down to $170 so do you think thats worth it for a Model F AT?

Or this one? http ...

Model Fs are built differently and don't use rivets in the same way. It's possible, as I understand it, but probably a fool's errand with a chance of causing damage to the PCB.

So Model F's dont really need to be bolt modded? What if the rivets become loose and the keystrokes will not feel as ...

Also, is a bolt mod able to be done on a Model F? I am afraid the rivets may have come lose if I buy a vintage board. If it can, I may send it to someone to bolt mod.

they are overrated in my mind they are not bad , just not amazing.

Yeah pretty much my line too but let's not get into that again. Preferences. That's all.

Yes very true indeed.

How much would AT's go for? I may have found one going for around $150. Is that a fair price? It seems pretty clean ...

Wow Model F's really are confusing... I think I might plunge on this one. What do you guys think? http://www.ebay.com/itm/171852924872?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I will ofcourse have to buy a soarers plug for that and it should be ready to use. I am just worried some ...

So there's no programming required for the Model F to work? Just plug that in and then its ready to use via usb? Its kind of like my Model M. My motherboard didn't supply enough power to my PS/2 port so I had to get an active PS2 to USB converter for it although it wasnt as expensive as $40!

Yeah I ...

Wait, so does this cable just convert an XT/AT Model F to USB? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-XT-AT-to-USB-Soarers-Converter-Remapping-Macros-NKRO-Support-IBM-Model-F-/281476427201?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41894d6dc1

Then I need to configure a program such as soarers converter after buying a ...

That one isn't tested and the others were a lot cleaner than that one. Can't I just use an XT - PS2 adapter and itll work fine? What is this whole sorarers converter and pro micro clone? Theres also that xwhatsit usb conversion thing? Please shed some light thanks

And this one! http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IBM-5-P ... 3f4fc7a7d7

Wow 3 SSK's for under $300... I was wanting an SSK but the person who sold it to me asked for over $500 for a brand new NOS SSK new in box so I couldn't afford it at the time.

Will this work with a PC if I get one of those XT to PS2 connectors? It looks relatively clean and good condition but hasn ...

Where can I get an AT for cheap? I'd like one converted to USB and in at least usable condition.

I don't want to try MX clear because isn't it just an MX brown with heavier actuation force? I've tried the browns and oh god I'd almost rather a good ol' rubber dome.

Hmm thanks for that suggestion ...

So judging from what I've gathered, a Model F AT/XT is the best way to go? I think this layout is the best (Whatever layout it is): http://i.imgur.com/kU3HM.jpg

Yeah $430 was quite a lot but I was new to keyboards at the time so I just plunged on to it.

Do you think I will tell a big difference ...

Woah, thanks for all the replies!

I spent $430 on my Model M. It is a late 1988 Model M 1390131 that was brand new in original box with no discoloration, stains or tears in the box. Immaculate condition but the price was definitely whopping. So I don't really want to spend too much on another ...

That is a sexy board! Looks very similar to a Model M. What key switches do they use?

So I am just trying to find my most preferred switch for typing but I just can't as of yet. I have an IBM Model M 1390131 and a RealForce 87U 55G. I have tried cherry blues, reds, blacks and browns and out of all those switches, mx browns are my least favourite and the buckling springs are my ...

I just tried it on my HHKB, and it a oddly nice and springy come back and a bit more hefty in terms of the feel...This is with 55g domes in my HHKB, just to note.

Yeah it feels good doesn't it? I just prefer the heftyness of it as I am a heavy typer. With cherry keyboards I prefer no o-rings but ...

Thanks for the link. What keys do you place the springs under?