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iandoug

Hi I did actually consider that but figured someone would want the OTHER of whichever of these I picked: https://www.keyboard-design.com/letterlayout.html?layout=qwerty-kinesis-advantage.en.ergodox https://www.keyboard-design.com/letterlayout.html?layout=qwerty-thumbshift.en.ergodox [The first can b...

iandoug

Hi all It's been a while since the the last time I did this exercise (2017) but I have done another comparison between the various keyboard layouts. The results are up at https://www.keyboard-design.com/best-layouts.html As part of the process, I also refreshed the Internet Letter Layout DB (ILLDB) ...

iandoug

Aha, so harder is not neccesarily better then, because i too am after that "warm and fuzzy" feeling. Good old brass then, should be cheap, and easy to find in a suitable thickness. Glad you guys talked some sense into me. FWIW, I'm also going to try brass.. have bought the plate. It will be for Key...

iandoug

XDA is Chinese clone of DSA. Slightly taller AFAIK. If you ask these guys nicely, they may be able to make a plan for you. https://kprepublic.aliexpress.com/store/group/Keycaps/3034003_511574184.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000023.7.e99b026Z3wZBu Cheers, Ian disclaimer: no connection to vendor. Thanks, ...

iandoug

Thank you for the answer, it would rock if any of the analyzers could do that, it may allow extensive experimentation with different layouts to fit a particular usage pattern, optimizing a design for an specific user. In truth, when I started experimenting with KLA/KLE etc I thought it would be use...

iandoug

Thank you for the answer, it would rock if any of the analyzers could do that, it may allow extensive experimentation with different layouts to fit a particular usage pattern, optimizing a design for an specific user. I think in theory KLA could be made to do it, but... 1. Need to change the loadin...

iandoug

Any of the analyzer tools can be feed with a keyboard layout directly from KLE? Not that I know of ... the problem is that KLE allows "any" form factor, and the analyzers are pedantic about only dealing with known form factors. I have some code that goes the other way (from KLA to KLE), but still a...

iandoug

Interesting, could you consider how much CFILORUX would stand a chance ? https://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/kochise-cfilorux-custom-keyboard-layout-creator-t17889.html Well the comparisons are based on English words, and your layout is not particularly designed for English. I read your thread, I ...

iandoug

hi All Current methods for evaluating keyboard layouts are usually based on analyzing what the fingers do, using complex measurements to track distance, alternation, repeated use, etc. When Maltron arrived, they used a different metric: how many words you could type on their home row, compared to QW...

iandoug

XDA is Chinese clone of DSA. Slightly taller AFAIK.

If you ask these guys nicely, they may be able to make a plan for you.

https://kprepublic.aliexpress.com/store ... b026Z3wZBu

Cheers, Ian

disclaimer: no connection to vendor.

iandoug

hi All I've posted a curated list of the best keyboard layouts for comment/criticism/etc. Constructive criticism welcome. The scoring was done with a varied corpus using Patrick's KLA with a modified scoring system, developed by Den (shenafu.com). Focus is on English and programming/technical. Have ...

iandoug

hi all I'm building a keyboard which will be machined out of a solid block of wood (not unlike keyboard.io model 1), except one piece not two. Am a bit stumped as to what to use for feet. Ideally I would like something stylish which is adjustable front and back, for positive and negative tilt to the...

iandoug

Thanks for this discussion, will come in very handy

iandoug

The best way to trigger Caps Lock isn't with a dedicated key, but with a macro: press both Shift keys to toggle it on and off. This works wonders for me. I prefer a Control key left of A instead of a dangerous bugger like cAPS lOCK. Yup, I borrowed that idea from discussions here. My left edge has,...

iandoug

I recently became aware of the scroll lock use in Excel, but that seems to be only use case for it nowadays. I think the 4-arrows and mouse have essentially replaced the need for nav on the numpad, except when you don't have a mouse or your arrow keys are broken, as pointed out. I'm designing a keyb...

iandoug

In case you haven't noticed, Ian Prest is back and has made several improvements to his Keyboard Layout Editor. I've also made a few tweaks of my own, which he may or may not incorporate, most likely doing it his own way, since he knows his code better than me... :-) It allows things like this.... h...

iandoug

hi

Can anyone suggest a use case for the navigation keys on the num pad?

ie. are they actually still necessary?

thanks, Ian

iandoug

Doesn't it depend on if you are planning on using the space bar as a fire button in games? Or some other non-space application.

iandoug

kbdfr: basically, you got distracted by 2 sentences of throwaway tongue-in-cheek teasing, and totally ignored the rest, the result of an hour of work where I was trying to answer your questions in good faith and at great length. Such a conversation is not worth it for me. Type on whatever you want....

iandoug

chzel wrote: ↑So...Ian found Ian?
Any progress on the code situation?

No I think alerque poked in enough places to get him to surface.

See here:

https://github.com/D1SC0tech/keyboard-l ... r/issues/9

cheers, Ian

iandoug

I am happy to report that he has finally surfaced.

iandoug

Hi

Anyone know how to get hold of Ian Prest?

Myself and another are busy doing some updates to his code and want to know the legal situation...

He hasn't done anything on it for years, or replied to issues on GitHub. I did try Twitter, but there also his last activity was ages ago.

thanks, Ian

iandoug

iandoug wrote: ↑
Fury wrote: ↑Need to buy 6.5 spacebars, but Signature Plastics only has them available in "PC" colors, can't find any color guides/samples to that kind... Does anybody have any idea what colors RAD-PC and BEW-PC might be?
SP really needs to include both the material and a colour swatch in their picklists ...

iandoug

Fury wrote: ↑Need to buy 6.5 spacebars, but Signature Plastics only has them available in "PC" colors, can't find any color guides/samples to that kind... Does anybody have any idea what colors RAD-PC and BEW-PC might be?

SP really needs to include both the material and a colour swatch in their picklists ...

iandoug

[…] our bloody European customs! […] Take a product manufactured in country A with a material and technology cost of $10 and a wage component of another $10, amounting to production costs of $20 per unit. If in country B where wages are very low the wage component for manufacturing the same product...

iandoug

Thanks! :) It's here on github , you can clone it and use it -- but see the unknown license issues above. I think if it's on github as a public repo, it's ok , but IANAL. He makes the source available but has a Copyright in the main page, so I'm also wondering about the status. Since we have no way...

iandoug

bearcat wrote: =================== Thanks! :) It's here on github, you can clone it and use it -- but see the unknown license issues above. I think if it's on github as a public repo, it's ok, but IANAL. =================== I presume you are aware of http://builder.swillkb.com/ ? Between KLE and his...

iandoug

chzel wrote: ↑Have a look here as well, great construction techniques.

Very neat, thanks

iandoug

Pins are for breadboarding and custom PCBs. If you're thinking of anything else, go pinless. What build guides have caught your eye? What are you planning, construction wise? Okay, I was suspecting those pins would be an issue. I have yet to find The Big Dummy's Guide to Building a Keyboard, Google...

iandoug

Woof. 2.0 hasn't enough pins for a slab of a keyboard like this. Must be 2++. The slab borrows design ideas from MS Natural original and Maltron. Key area is less than 42 cm wide. Last question: with or without pins? Jesse says "I bought a pair of Teensy++ microcontrollers from PJRC. Initially, I o...

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