deskthority

Gotta love those bar code labels. I wish I had one.

"Second attempt" is not many, sometimes it takes half a dozen or more. And definitely tilt in different directions to make the spring flop around. The larger keys are much less maneuverable than singles.

That looks like an amazingly cheap price in light of recent events.

Also dampening the sound is one thing but getting it down to acceptable office levels is another. The floss mod takes away the high-pitched overtones but the basic core clicks remain. The attenuation is different and the effect in every register is different but I would say that the overall reducti...

It would be helpful if you listed the model number and date. Also what country you are in.

That looks like a 180 degree plug and a loose 240 degree socket. What are you showing us?

It takes some Dremel work at the minimum, I don't think that is more than a few small places.
I can't remember whether you re-use that "spline" piece.

He is a member here and might cut you a better deal off ebay.

Too bad about the broken case, but there may be some replacements around after the giant parts party surrounding lot_lizard's project a few years ago.

How is she (guessing elecplus = electronicoyote?) able to ship for such a cheap price No, elecplus is "Cindy" in Texas and the "electronic coyote" is a small computer seller in Georgia. Contact the seller and verify the details. The USPS international flat rate game board box costs about $80 to any...

caiko wrote: ↑

03 Jul 2019, 18:32

not sure if I would like full plastic on the AT.

The AT still has the 2 internal of the 3 steel plates and probably weighs about the same as an XT.

Remember that Soarer originally embarked on his converter project in order to get NKRO over USB so that he could game on an F AT.

That is interesting to look at. Does it have decent weight and stability?

I agree with the suggestion of painting case, replacing cable, and modding or swapping switches.

A good set of black ANSI Alps keycaps is always valuable, especially if compatible with AEK and AEK2

zazxyz wrote: ↑

23 Jun 2019, 18:28

Those would fetch for a high price.

I doubt it. M-122s can be bought new from Unicomp for around $100, and in black, and native USB without need for converters.

but now I think that I can live with it. There is nothing like the IBM Model F 122-key terminal, but Cindy has a very nice NMB black clicky Space Invaders 122-key (didn't you buy one of those from me a few years ago?) that could be spectacular and also much lighter in weight. Native PS/2 also, as I...

I once bought an amateur "Soft Touch" mod job that was botched as a "for parts or not working" at a very cheap price. I threw the flippers in the garbage and rebuilt it properly.

The original 8184692 Soft Touches seem pretty rare.

My theory is that XT and AT units were sold as consumer devices and so were kept dry inside conditioned houses, whereas the terminals were commercial/industrial and probably hauled off into dirty unheated warehouses after being taken out of commission..

It's worth noting that pinginess is to do with the springs, and not usually the condition of the board. I don't know why, but the pitch and volume of the ping differs with every Model F keyboard. It's fascinating to me, but I never seem to get the pingy ones. In my experience, Model F keyboards don...

Why does one bolt-mod an F? What does it do? I created a guide for refurbishing and ANSI-modding a 122-key terminal F. https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=11102&p=241582&hilit=harry+ansi#p241582 In the guide are shown half a dozen "bolts" (machine screws and nuts) but as I became more exper...

Screws and nuts with washers are capable of compressing plates far more than sliding force fits with tabs.

Screws need only be tightened to replicate the original compression. As with a Model M "bolt mod" I advocate looser rather than tighter, so start loose and tighten only as much as necessary.

Fkazim wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2019, 20:41

What are the reasons the XT feet dont fit into the AT

Try it. Prove me wrong. Please.

Wazrach wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2019, 10:35

is it not possible to use XT feet with an AT?

No

Wazrach wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2019, 21:26

Almost like it's ready to burst under all the pressure.

I have always maintained that this is the crucial key to the essence of the Model F, what makes it "alive" as several people have described it.

snacksthecat wrote: ↑

02 Jun 2019, 02:31

Keyboard is curse how fix?

I discussed that in my guide, and all my repairs have been successful. JB Weld is the greatest, but it is dark gray, so I used "Charcoal Gray" Dupli-Color from the auto supply store to make all my repaired cases modern and dark.

F AT cases are nightmarish to open and close. The plastic is brittle and the clips are too tight.

Why-oh-why didn't the screw a metal back onto the AT?

About the only time I recall "not nice" behaviour here was in the political threads before and after the 2016 US election.

That is exactly what it is. The term should probably be "screw repair" because you are not modifying anything.

It took me 2 years, and that was 6-7 years ago. About 3 years ago it seemed that they got somewhat more available for a while.

If you just add screws to broken rivet shaft locations, that is a "screw mod" which is an order of magnitude easier. Many people prefer this, including pseudo-professional refurbishers, but personally I want to take it completely apart so that I can clean all the parts including the membrane sandwic...

I had a couple but tossed them out because they had turned to sticky black goo.

As a tangential question, does anybody know how to restore old black plastic that has become sticky and nasty?
I am thinking of some handles in particular, such as tools and umbrellas.

I ordered F122 foam from Ellipse for $60 shipped, You complain about money for shipping, yet numerous people have volunteered to put this together for you for the cost of round trip postage. I think that it is about time that you send your keyboard to someone, in another country if necessary, and h...

I would consider using a Dremel to create a hole for those trackpoint switches.

https://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/1394942