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Regarding my above post & ifohancroft's answer, that's too bad. As noted above by another poster, it'd be kinda fun to have an Alps/Alps Clone/Matias tester machine or just have the ability to switch out switches in a chassis you really like. I was kind of hoping for the Mill-Max approach, where yo...

I think there are some NOS complicated and simplified Alps on Taobao. Thank you! That's useful, however, I need to get back to Kailh today so by the time I get the switches it would be too late. Also, I can get the sizes of NOS switches from the datasheet. I am more interested in sizes of switches ...

Unfortunately they won't fit into existing boards as the holes for the socket need to be bigger than the holes for the pins. For existing PCBs look into Mill Max sockets. There may be a version that would fit. I have no experience with them as when I've been using sockets I've only used Kailh's typ...

Hmm, if there usually won't be variation between the top and bottom of the pin, then 0.2 and 0.4/0.5 is too big of a variation, perhaps switches would have to be cleaned before used with the sockets. As for the width vs thickness - what you just measured seems to be the thickness. In this case, when...

Of course! As soon as the sockets are ready, I'll share footprints

To make sure the hotswap sockets fit Alps switches that may have some solder leftover, as well as new Matias switches, and possibly clones, it would be awesome if anyone who has Alps or any compatible switches can measure their pins (only the part that sticks out from the bottom of the housing) and ...

Thank you! That's a great idea! I didn't think of that. I thought about contacting vendors to possibly host the group buy if enough people show interest and act as a proxy, but I didn't think about contacting Keymacs and such and vendors for reaching the MOQ. P.S. I just saw your comment on the form...

Yes.

Unfortunately they won't fit into existing boards as the holes for the socket need to be bigger than the holes for the pins. For existing PCBs look into Mill Max sockets. There may be a version that would fit. I have no experience with them as when I've been using sockets I've only used Kailh's type...

Ima cop some if we absolutely need to I can by more than 2000 just expect me to be selling them on eBay and such if I have to get more to meet MOQ That's absolutely awesome! Thank you! Yeah, I have no problem whatsoever with whatever you do with them. I mean ideally, don't destroy them, besides tha...

CoolPenguin1 wrote: ↑

08 Mar 2022, 17:15

I've wanted a ALPs testboard for a while now so I'd love for this to be a thing.

I've thought in-terms of easing your life in-case your Alps switches die and have to replace them on your board but that's actually a brilliant idea.

I haven't had a chance to read all the pages yet, so I hope someone hasn't beaten me to it: I'd love to do case and plate designs. I've probably accumulated about at least a thousand hours on keyboard case/plate design in CAD as I procrastinate working on my keyboard's PCB, but I'd need some dimensi...

inozenz wrote: ↑

08 Mar 2022, 15:08

Count me in!

Awesome!

I made an IC form, linked above.

Alps (and Matias) switches can benefit from some non MillMax type hotswap sockets. I've been talking with Kailh about them making such sockets and the MOQ and price they've given me for the first order that would make the sockets happen is 100K MOQ at a price between $0.045 and $0.055 per socket . I...

Palatino wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2022, 23:28

keyboardjoy wrote: ↑

01 Mar 2022, 13:20

Sterling effort from the mod team; you three turned the tide against the spammers literally overnight.

Now the next mission has to be: introduce you to a switch that you prefer to MX Blue!

I vote for him to try Box Jades

So, you wanna be a moderator? How about a challenge? https://i2.wp.com/aftercredits.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/29/PosseFeat.jpg?fit=700%2C350 See this list ? Me and Agecanonix have found many spam accounts by searching, slicing and dicing it today. I must have just deleted ten of them. (And fou...

I am not sure what kind of stabilizers it uses. Can you post a picture with a keycap of a stabilized key removed?

So, you wanna be a moderator? How about a challenge? https://i2.wp.com/aftercredits.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/29/PosseFeat.jpg?fit=700%2C350 See this list ? Me and Agecanonix have found many spam accounts by searching, slicing and dicing it today. I must have just deleted ten of them. (And fou...

Awesome job guys! Now if we can also get an admin that's given server access that would be awesome! Btw Mu, you said Oliver is ok with the wiki being backed up, how about also getting forum backups made available, just in case? Also, if we can do something about the store... that would be awesome. ...

Awesome job guys! That's great news. I was literally saving up money for a new domain where I was planning to (hopefully be able to somehow backup the forum and wiki) upload a backup of the forum and wiki on (Because I believe any possible Deskthority continuation should be using phpBB and MediaWiki...

I'm not sure if it's worth it at this point or if it's not too late but I was going to suggest booting a live Linux distro and running 'dmesg' in the terminal. The idea is that you run 'dmesg' or 'dmesg -W' to be exact, then plug the keyboard and see if it shows anything. I had a KBParadise V60 with...

Possible maybe. But feasible? Maybe not. Topre springs are conical so to present a much larger conductive area (near) to the PCB’s sense pad when pressed down. MX etc. use coil springs, which just get denser as they’re pushed down onto their peg. The capacitive sensor may not see anything obvious e...

Does anyone know if it would be possible to use capacitive sensing on switches with a coil spring inside them? I.e. MX, Alps SKCM, etc..
I know inductive sensing is possible, but is capacitive?

P.S. Do you happen to know if switch bouncing affects capsense? I.e. does it need debouncing? Bounce is an electrical effect of switch contacts touching each other, so capsense doesn't have it. In contact switches (think Alps and MX) what really happens is two bits of metal touch each other, slowly...

Yes: Beam, F and Topre are all capsense. This makes them all inherently NKRO as well as removing friction from the slider. Mind, the same is true for Foam & Foil, so it's not a one-way golden ticket to greatness! But capsense sure doesn't hurt. Thank you, Mu! Well, of course, if you shit yourself, ...

…recent research from beardsmore seems to indicate… Comforting news like that would put me well to bed, but it's mid-morning here and the day's just getting started! An Alps story and a freshly made morning coffee - is there a better way to start the day? I hope there is no incorrect order to this ...

Muirium wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2022, 21:58

They’re honestly better now than any time last century.

I completely agree!
A friend of mine really likes old IBM mice though (he's actually a member here as well) and I must say, they do look good (those with the two sticking out gray buttons).

Since this is spam anyway, I'll just hijack the thread to ask - what is meant by a mechanical mouse? I am confused about the mechanical part in the designation. If it uses optical switches, does it still count as a mechanical? [ Edit ] To answer my own question: 1. Apparently, other regulars on here...

Thank you Mu! I'm looking forward to seeing your pictures and report when the light is right.

Let us know how the quality is if you do end up trying them.