Unpopular opinions thread

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Muirium
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15 Mar 2021, 21:32

Bjerrk wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:28
PlacaFromHell wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:11
depletedvespene wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 20:03
That would have been an unpopular opinion two or three decades ago, but not so today, given how BAD red apples have become.
That's somehow true, green apples are a sort of high end thing right now, but given the fact that red apples are more widely available and when someone talks about apples the red one is the first appearing in your mind, I bet they're, at least in a cultural way, more popular.
Is this all an American thing? Here (Denmark), apples are usually multicoloured and taste great.

Damn, I love apples. Apples apples apples!
That’s also true here in Scotland. Most apples are red yellow green all mixed up. Those are the good apples. I like the first bite of a deep red apple (Macintosh is the best but only see them in North America) but they’re not as satisfying as a good locally sourced ducked up European apple.

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depletedvespene

15 Mar 2021, 21:35

Bjerrk wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:28
PlacaFromHell wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:11
depletedvespene wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 20:03


That would have been an unpopular opinion two or three decades ago, but not so today, given how BAD red apples have become.
That's somehow true, green apples are a sort of high end thing right now, but given the fact that red apples are more widely available and when someone talks about apples the red one is the first appearing in your mind, I bet they're, at least in a cultural way, more popular.
Is this all an American thing? Here (Denmark), apples are usually multicoloured and taste great.

Damn, I love apples. Apples apples apples!
Over time, red apples in USA (and in the cultural colonies, like my own country) have become a visually more striking and uniform red... but that change has also damaged its actual texture and flavor. They are prettier to look at, but blander and with a meh texture.

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depletedvespene

15 Mar 2021, 21:38

Muirium wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:32
Bjerrk wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:28
PlacaFromHell wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:11

That's somehow true, green apples are a sort of high end thing right now, but given the fact that red apples are more widely available and when someone talks about apples the red one is the first appearing in your mind, I bet they're, at least in a cultural way, more popular.
Is this all an American thing? Here (Denmark), apples are usually multicoloured and taste great.

Damn, I love apples. Apples apples apples!
That’s also true here in Scotland. Most apples are red yellow green all mixed up. Those are the good apples. I like the first bite of a deep red apple (Macintosh is the best but only see them in North America) but they’re not as satisfying as a good locally sourced ducked up European apple.
Another item to add to my "to eat" list when I do get to travel to Europe again. I haven't had a real red apple in ages.

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Muirium
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15 Mar 2021, 21:38

Yup. Bold red American style apples are more tart. Acidic. Not really appley-apples. They really need more… apple.

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fohat
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15 Mar 2021, 22:34

"Red Delicious" apples in the US need to be renamed "Red Tasteless" because they have been bred to look great without regard to taste. Decades ago, as a kid, I loved "Yellow Delicious" but today, besides being tasteless, those are also mush.

Fortunately I have somewhat better access to more direct supply lines from farms, and I do occasionally get good apples, but variety or appearance are not dependable markers. Smaller and uglier specimens are often better. There are some good ones out there, I got some Honeycrisps recently that were very good, and Pink Ladies are usually pretty decent but can tend towards mealiness.

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Scarpia

15 Mar 2021, 22:56

Here in Sweden, the best apple variety is called Ingrid Marie, a tart and multicolored winter only variety. Almost all the other varieties we get in stores here are terrible; the red “delicious”, granny smith, pink lady, all awful tasting but with great looks and I’m sure great mass production properties (like high yields, resistance to pests, and peel that stays good looking for longer).

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Muirium
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15 Mar 2021, 23:02

Jazz Apples can be quite nice. They appeal to my sweet tooth. Though they're as jazzy as Utah!

CallmeJohn

16 Mar 2021, 01:14

Chyros wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 12:23
CallmeJohn wrote:
12 Mar 2021, 14:11
iPods and other mp3 players are better than music streaming platforms. No ads, I own all my music and I don't have to use my phone's battery. Not sure how unpopular this opinion is on here but anyone I've talked to just doesn't get it.
I use a DAP too. Definitely prefer it to listening to music on my phone, and streaming platforms are absolute rubbish. Things like Spotify in no way satisfy my music demand, it's way too limited. I don't understand how people can subsist on Spotify, do they just exclusively listen to pop music or something?
Just curious what music player do you use?

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PlacaFromHell

16 Mar 2021, 04:13

Bjerrk wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:28
PlacaFromHell wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:11
depletedvespene wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 20:03


That would have been an unpopular opinion two or three decades ago, but not so today, given how BAD red apples have become.
That's somehow true, green apples are a sort of high end thing right now, but given the fact that red apples are more widely available and when someone talks about apples the red one is the first appearing in your mind, I bet they're, at least in a cultural way, more popular.
Is this all an American thing? Here (Denmark), apples are usually multicoloured and taste great.

Damn, I love apples. Apples apples apples!
I've been investigating about your country's apples and looks like they're mostly redfree variety, which is pretty similar to the royal gala here at Argentina, both varieties mixed in colour but more like reds. Green apples are, leaving aside the colour, generally crunchier and quite sour, while red apples are usually sweet and a little more on the pulpy side.
Come on, just look at this bad girl and tell me if you don't want to take a bite:
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PlacaFromHell

16 Mar 2021, 04:13

Holy crap wtf happened with the picture

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matt3o
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16 Mar 2021, 08:55

The market... or better "marketing" made so that we usually know and easily find just half a dozen varieties of apple (red, yellow, green and perfectly round) and each one is very distinct in flavor (mostly hard texture, sweet and juicy), but that's not how (all) apples are.

I find the super red/yellow/green apples to be incredibly boring to the palate. Out of my mind I can count at least 50 varieties of apples and the best ones are mostly bitter-sweet, with a slightly grainy texture.

One of my favorite is the Annurca, they are small and not very pretty. They present bumps and dark spots like it should be.

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Similar but a little sweeter the Stayman that might be easier to find internationally

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But those are still "modern" apples, created for the human taste over the years (centuries). Very rarely you can find "real" apples, usually at bio diversity shows and they are multicolored and the shape is rarely round.

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Muirium
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16 Mar 2021, 10:29

That's industrialised consumerism for you. What sells best, and most consistently, is an easily identifiable, repeatable product. Fruit really shouldn't be like that, but most people don't want to spend some quality time in the fruit section of the supermarket (let alone the farmer's stall) inspecting things by hand. They want fast choices: green or red?

Huh. Reminds me of a certain switch family, come to think of it.

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kbdfr
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16 Mar 2021, 12:01

Apples? How weird. And old-fashioned.
But pears…

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Muirium
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16 Mar 2021, 12:03

Rocha pears. Yellow and golden sweet.

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Bjerrk

16 Mar 2021, 12:20

PlacaFromHell wrote:
16 Mar 2021, 04:13
Bjerrk wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:28
PlacaFromHell wrote:
15 Mar 2021, 21:11

That's somehow true, green apples are a sort of high end thing right now, but given the fact that red apples are more widely available and when someone talks about apples the red one is the first appearing in your mind, I bet they're, at least in a cultural way, more popular.
Is this all an American thing? Here (Denmark), apples are usually multicoloured and taste great.

Damn, I love apples. Apples apples apples!
I've been investigating about your country's apples and looks like they're mostly redfree variety, which is pretty similar to the royal gala here at Argentina, both varieties mixed in colour but more like reds. Green apples are, leaving aside the colour, generally crunchier and quite sour, while red apples are usually sweet and a little more on the pulpy side.
These are about the cheapest apples I could find down at the shop, and, honestly, they're pretty decent! :-D
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Somewhat locally grown, even.

I have a friend who lives on a small island in southern Denmark, just opposite a small (organic) orchard. They're of course on a whole other level. But for grocery store apples at 50 cents a piece I can't complain!

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Chyros

19 Mar 2021, 11:19

Pears are okay, the gravelly texture is a bit weird though. And they are quite messy. Got into caramelised pear tea recently though, and it's quite nice (sounds sweet but it isn't).

Apples are okay too but I never buy them myself.

My fruit of choice is bananas. Juice-wise I love orange and pineapple — plays hell on my stomach though.

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Muirium
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19 Mar 2021, 12:48

Pineapple juice is top notch. I also thoroughly commend peach juice and pear juice. Though all that scrumptious sugar will wreck your diet, be warned!

But aye, bananas are the everyday staple. Perfect quick grab fruit, and don't even get your fingers dirty. Best eaten when spotty, of course.

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fohat
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19 Mar 2021, 14:18

Muirium wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 12:48

Best eaten when spotty, of course.
My late father would have agreed with you, but my ex-wife refused to eat a banana that did not have at least a touch of green left on it.

Grapefruit is the best fruit juice. And it after eating a grapefruit the juice of the spent carcass squeezed into a glass is better than any store-bought juice.

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Chyros

19 Mar 2021, 15:22

Muirium wrote:
19 Mar 2021, 12:48
Pineapple juice is top notch. I also thoroughly commend peach juice and pear juice. Though all that scrumptious sugar will wreck your diet, be warned!

But aye, bananas are the everyday staple. Perfect quick grab fruit, and don't even get your fingers dirty. Best eaten when spotty, of course.
Absolutely! Don't understand these people that eat bananas before they're half-brown. They genuinely taste like grass before they've ripened, why do people do it? Oo

Also peach juice is really good too, yeah, I just tend to forget about it xD . But it's excellent!

Oh yeah, and I love strawberries. Just fucking expensive as gold shit xD .

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PlacaFromHell

20 Mar 2021, 00:01

What about this one? Tomato is the ultimate fruit.

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Muirium
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20 Mar 2021, 00:05

It's not the worst. I really like the wee "cherry" ones—not to be confused with cherries or Cherry—as they're a more or less guilt free form of candy. Keep 'em cold in the fridge and chow on down before your mind even settles on a richer target.

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fohat
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20 Mar 2021, 01:21

Muirium wrote:
20 Mar 2021, 00:05

I really like the wee "cherry" ones
A few years ago, for 2 consecutive years, we had a plant that produced vast quantities of the yellow pear-shaped ones. They were the best tomatoes I have ever had, perfectly sweet and tart at the same time, and I got a dozen or so every other day for a month or more.

After that I was never able to grow them again. I have bought other yellow pear-shaped cherry tomatoes but they were never as good. And I have never had another plant nearly so prolific.

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XMIT
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20 Mar 2021, 02:26

That sounds a lot more delicious than the extremely poisonous “devil’s tomato” that was growing beside our driveway last year.

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