Computer Reset Conundrum

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Redmaus
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17 Mar 2020, 02:29

Hey, I'm writing this because I'm not really sure what to do here and I find folks on DT have a fair bit of wisdom. I'm going to try and be as objective and transparent as I can in this post so people can make accurate judgments.

There has been some rumors going on about me and I don't like it one bit. Especially since the people spreading them seem very spiteful with ill intent towards me.

I'm sure some of you remember my trip to computer reset last year:

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I grabbed quite a few keyboards(over 100), and on my third trip I got banned. The reason I got banned from the organizers perspective can be seen in this FB message to me from the organizer:
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In this post there are several things he told me I did that I simply do NOT remember happening that way or got any inclination of this when I was actually there. There is truth to it however, and I will fess up to what I did do wrong.

Fault #1
I did leave a mess in several areas. There were some piles that I went thru that were more disorganized after I went thru them. I did clean some of these but some were still there after I left. Mainly an area beneath the overhead shelves that was hard for me to get into in the first place.

Fault #2
There was one person who took two keyboards straight out of my pile, and I confronted him about it and politely asked if I could have them back. He lied and said he found them somewhere else. I explained that I knew they were mine and the person I brought with me to the warehouse confirmed this, and he gave them back. I probably should have just let this go. I didn't care that much about the keyboards, it was honestly more about principle. Either way I should have just let the guy have them.

Fault #3
Most likely the main reason I got banned. There were piles of keyboards all throughout the warehouse, and most of the keyboards I got were from these piles. People saw what I was taking, and even though most of what I was taking was PS/2 and AT there were some terminal models as well. This means that a few systems somewhere in the warehouse are essentially unusable since they don't have their proprietary keyboard. The owner confronted me about this on my third trip(Separating a keyboard from its box) and had a bruh moment and put it back, and didn't touch anything that was a full system after that.

Now with all that being said, let me explain my perspective.

During the times I went, my understanding and the situation at the time was that it was a liquidation. I was told they had to clear the place out in a month because they were going to bulldoze the lot and sell it because the family that owned the place needed the money. So I was trying to save as much as I could, because the place would be gone within a month. So making a mess wasn't a concern to me as I thought the warehouse would be a bulldozed lot next month. Clearly I was wrong with this assumption.
It didn't work out this way, and as the warehouse got more attention and more rare things were uncovered I think the organizers decided to hold off on a full liquidation.

I did offer to help clean and organize the warehouse, both before and after I got banned but but when I got banned I pretty much knew that wasn't going to happen as the organizers wanted nothing to do with me.

Another thing that upsets me is that no one said a thing to my face while I was there aside from the aforementioned exchange about the proprietary keyboard in the box. I was kind friendly to everybody I came across and the other people in the warehouse acted the same way. I never yelled at people saying things were mine, that just isn't who I am. In my mind everything there wasn't mine until I moved it into my pile. BTW pretty much every person there had their own pile, it was understood that the things in piles belonged to people that already found things. Before I left I shook hands with the organizer and nothing seemed off.

After that FB message I was banned from the Computer Reset facebook group. My father was banned too who came with me on my second trip, and I still don't know why this was done as he didn't do anything wrong. All my attempts at communication with the organizer went nowhere, and I had no further explanation or dialogue with him online.

This was last summer, and I was upset for about two months after being banned since there were so many cool things in the warehouse and I enjoyed talking to the people that were there. I was also very disturbed about the things he said in that message, since I had never had anything like this happen to me before and felt like I had made people feel uncomfortable and unwelcome. I never want to do this to anyone.
Then, after some emails with someone I met at CR I asked him if all those things were true and he had this to say:
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This was a huge relief to me as it made clear that I essentially got banned for taking too much and making a mess. Not for yelling at people and the like.

Also to add, I those brown alps TI keyboards I got from CR I gave to the person mentioned in the email. He had a working TIPC which wouldn't even boot without the keyboard. I wanted to convert one of those and use personally, but there was another person he knew with a TIPC so I gave him both.

Another thing I did that the rumor spreaders fail to mention is that me and my father donated $1000 to the warehouse owners gofundme. I did this because I was glad for the experience to be in such an interesting place, and wanted to pay my respects and appreciation to the owners who allowed me to have this adventure.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/7uagmw-elder ... VeiSf9F9KA
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The people that have been telling stories also say I STOLE things. Which is ridiculous as Computer Reset was selling stuff at fire sale pricing since they were trying to liquidate the warehouse. Why would I steal things from people in need of help? The way I saw it the more I took the closer the warehouse was to being cleared out as well as more money for the owners.

You can see this guy accusing me on mechmarket:
https://www.removeddit.com/r/mechmarket ... cts_added/

This guy is wrong on so many levels. He also deleted all his posts so maybe he knows it too. My responses are detailed in the posts, but I'll go over my main complaints here as well.
First off, it was never a giveaway for collectors. If you look at the facebook group the name is literally in the title:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ComputerResetWL/

Second, I only got like three or four rubberdomes that were interesting to me. I didn't cover up rare stuff under piles of rubberdomes, why on earth would I bring back loads of rubberdomes?
The way it worked was that you put everything in a pile, and the organizer looks at it and then we talk price. The organizer saw everything I got each time, and some of the stuff was in boxes. I asked if he wanted me to unbox or show him more detail on what I had, and he didn't feel the need to. All the terminal and proprietary keyboards were in plain view.

Third, the vcfed thread is NOT any type of accurate information. Only about three people in that thread had even been to computer reset, and from what I can tell most of the people in that thread are just frustrated in general how the mechanical keyboarding community have caused a spike in prices for the keyboards they want for their systems. The are frustrated that their hobby is being comprised, and see me as a contributing factor. Which is fair, however I try to keep lower prices than what you would find on ebay.

Now, I am not expecting to get back into Computer Reset ever. It's quite clear the organizers want nothing to do with me, and that's completely up to them.

What I do want is for people to quit saying I stole stuff and robbed these people. That is not true, I have never been a thief and hate being seen as one. I have worked hard throughout the years to maintain a good reputation within the keyboard community, trying to provide fair deals and help people whenever needed. Having it all tainted by these rumors is very frustrating, and I feel like its one or two people that are out to get me. I have seen people doing this in mechmarket and in a couple discord servers.

Thank you to anyone who read this far, I hope you all stay safe and healthy during this COVID pandemic. :)

TLDR:
Got banned from Computer Reset last year, for legitimate reasons. I have tried to make this right thru communication with the organizers to no avail. Now this year people have been saying all kinds of things like I stole keyboards and am a shady thief. This is not true, and I don't like people slandering my name.

Would appreciate any advice or thoughts on the subject.
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snacksthecat
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17 Mar 2020, 02:44

Redmaus wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 02:29
Hey, I'm writing this because I'm not really sure what to do here and I find folks on DT have a fair bit of wisdom. I'm going to try and be as objective and transparent as I can in this post so people can make accurate judgments.
How much did you make off all the hauls?

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Redmaus
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17 Mar 2020, 03:00

snacksthecat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 02:44
Redmaus wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 02:29
Hey, I'm writing this because I'm not really sure what to do here and I find folks on DT have a fair bit of wisdom. I'm going to try and be as objective and transparent as I can in this post so people can make accurate judgments.
How much did you make off all the hauls?
I have made several thousand dollars. Keep in mind however that I also had to spend money on storage shelves, shipping materials, website hosting, as well as hundreds of hours of my time.

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snacksthecat
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17 Mar 2020, 03:11

Thanks for the honest response! An (approximate) dollar amount would have been more transparent but I didn't expect an answer to my very direct question in the first place so I'll take what I can get.

Maybe what you're doing is coming off way differently to the outside observer. No one wants to admit their faults so it can be very difficult to look introspectively and actually be objective. So you might feel you're acting appropriately but someone in the same room perceives it as unacceptable.

I don't have really any prior knowledge about this topic, but in reading your post there's clearly a lot of different accusations, but you have an excuse for all of them.

I'm not saying that you're lying (just to be clear). Just wanted to float it out there that you might be doing things you think are fine but other people don't.

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Exemplar

17 Mar 2020, 03:35

It only took a few weeks, multiple people calling you out, contact with the owners from DFW, and multiple server bans for you to make this post. At least it came i guess.

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Redmaus
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17 Mar 2020, 03:42

snacksthecat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 03:11
Thanks for the honest response! An (approximate) dollar amount would have been more transparent but I didn't expect an answer to my very direct question in the first place so I'll take what I can get.
I need to keep more accurate records. The reason I don't have an exact number is because I don't actually know. If I had to guess it, I'd say about $7000. This is without factoring in shipping and other costs.
snacksthecat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 03:11
Maybe what you're doing is coming off way differently to the outside observer. No one wants to admit their faults so it can be very difficult to look introspectively and actually be objective. So you might feel you're acting appropriately but someone in the same room perceives it as unacceptable.
Are you referring the way this thread reads or the events that occurred at computer reset?
snacksthecat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 03:11
I don't have really any prior knowledge about this topic, but in reading your post there's clearly a lot of different accusations, but you have an excuse for all of them.
There is legit fault with some of the things I did, mainly the messes. I have my reasons for such mistakes and want people to understand my mindset at the time.
snacksthecat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 03:11
I'm not saying that you're lying (just to be clear). Just wanted to float it out there that you might be doing things you think are fine but other people don't.
Some people clearly have an issue, but it appears to me that the issue isn't solely with me. Examples include frustration at keyboard prices and the fact that someone else beat them to that keyboard they wanted for themselves. I must say this would have been better if I didn't post or share anything on DT or anywhere else but I would rather share these finds and see what other forum members have to say.
Exemplar wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 03:35
It only took a few weeks, multiple people calling you out, contact with the owners from DFW, and multiple server bans for you to make this post. At least it came i guess.
Do you actually have anything of value to add?

I told people I got banned back in last year. What I'm talking about happened last year not a few weeks. I'm not doing this because I got banned, I'm doing it because people have accused me of stealing.

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Exemplar

17 Mar 2020, 03:43

One second thing. I think you owe the guys at Computer Reset a MAJOR apology, and honestly a good bit of the profits you made off of their charity. You made multiple trips and messes to a charity event. You did this PURELY to make a profit, evident based on the fact that you opened a store very rapidly after hundreds of keyboards to complete systems went missing in CRT boxes. This isn't an apology based on actual guilt, this is an apology because you were caught. I don't like dragging this up, but if I need to, I can supply many screenshots from the group recounting the deplorable behavior you displayed. Just because someone is dying doesn't mean you get to run rampant and, frankly, be a profiteering asshole.

Edited: Rapid typing doesn't result in great spelling.

Findecanor

17 Mar 2020, 03:57

Redmaus wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 03:42
I need to keep more accurate records. The reason I don't have an exact number is because I don't actually know.
You will have to start making better records because you are going to have to pay tax on the profit.
With the exception of any sales you might have made with cash, there are records that you should go through.

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Redmaus
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17 Mar 2020, 04:08

Exemplar wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 03:43
One second thing. I think you owe the guys at Computer Reset a MAJOR apology, and honestly a good bit of the profits you made off of their charity. You made multiple trips and messes to a charity event. You did this PURELY to make a profit, evident based on the fact that you opened a store very rapidly after hundreds of keyboards to complete systems went missing in CRT boxes. This isn't an apology based on actual guilt, this is an apology because you were caught. I don't like dragging this up, but if I need to, I can supply many screenshots from the group recounting the deplorable behavior you displayed. Just because someone is dying doesn't mean you get to run rampant and, frankly, be a profiteering asshole.

Edited: Rapid typing doesn't result in great spelling.
Did you read the post? It was never a charity event, it was a LIQUIDATION. It was a sale. I was trying to save as much as possible from the landfill. Why is this so hard to understand?

Go ahead and dig up the proof, I'd love to see it. It's nice to hear that I'm a profiteering asshole, when there were many others like me who went and did the same thing but since they left the keyboards alone they didn't get the same bad pr because they sold on ebay and don't have any type of forum reputation to shit on. Also there were others there who bought explicitly to resell and the organizers were happy they were there. There was a Dallas electronics store that bought scores of PCjr's to resell.

You really think I wanted to take advantage of the owners poor health? You think I'm some sick person that wants to exploit people? Why would I donate then? I barely had money at the time and did it anyway.

If you read the post I was trying to help liquidate the warehouse. That was the goal. I apologize for making a mess and separating some systems but all the apologies to CR have already been made months ago. I have nothing left to apologize for.
Findecanor wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 03:57
You will have to start making better records because you are going to have to pay tax on the profit.
With the exception of any sales you might have made with cash, there are records that you should go through.
This is true, and I have already begun work on this. I do have everything recorded on the redmarket store so that's accounted for and all those sales were in 2020.

John Doe

17 Mar 2020, 04:43

I'm not expert about this, but leaving things mess and taking many keyboards(after paid) should not be accused of being a thief anyway. Aggressive.

Resell them with reasonable prices are acceptable aswell from my perspective.

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Redmaus
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17 Mar 2020, 04:56

John Doe wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 04:43
I'm not expert about this, but leaving things mess and taking many keyboards(after paid) should not be accused of being a thief anyway. Aggressive.

Resell them with reasonable prices are acceptable aswell from my perspective.
Thanks, I appreciate the support John. That actually reminds me about another thing I wanted to accomplish by getting so many. I know if I have them I can sell them on my site for a reasonable price. If I didn't get them someone else would have who would probably just sell them on ebay to the highest bidder. I bet I could probably double or triple my profits if I sold on ebay.

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zrrion

17 Mar 2020, 04:58

Redmaus wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 04:08
it was a LIQUIDATION
I highly doubt you could have gotten banned from a liquidation unless you were behaving pretty badly. It is entirely possible that you misunderstood what the intent of the sale was, but I find it hard to believe that it took getting banned before you understood that your behavior wasn't acceptable. At any rate, this isn't something that DT really has anything to do with. If you've fucked up your relation with the computer reset folks then you should apologize to them.

Additionally, might I ask how many other people got banned from computer reset besides you? And also have you had this sort of experience before with other warehouses/recycles? I'd be more inclined to believe that this was all a misunderstanding if this was a one-off scenario.

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I bet I could probably double or triple my profits if I sold on ebay.
you would have to take even more care if you did that as you would have to report it on your taxes properly. If you sell outside of a major storefront you might be able to get away with avoiding it. not a tax expert, don't take this as advise of any sort.

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Redmaus
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17 Mar 2020, 05:04

zrrion wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 04:58
I highly doubt you could have gotten banned from a liquidation unless you were behaving pretty badly. It is entirely possible that you misunderstood what the intent of the sale was, but I find it hard to believe that it took getting banned before you understood that your behavior wasn't acceptable. At any rate, this isn't something that DT really has anything to do with. If you've fucked up your relation with the computer reset folks then you should apologize to them.
This isn't to fix anything with the computer reset organizers as I have stated before. It's to address people saying I stole things and tried to hurt these people, accusations which I take great offense to. Besides I already apologized more times than I can count back last year.

If you find it hard to believe, that is your viewpoint and I respect that. I'm posting on DT because I'm seeking advice on what to do + some honest feedback and I find this place has plenty of both.
zrrion wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 04:58
Additionally, might I ask how many other people got banned from computer reset besides you? And also have you had this sort of experience before with other warehouses/recycles? I'd be more inclined to believe that this was all a misunderstanding if this was a one-off scenario.
This is most definitely a one-off scenario. I haven't had this much trouble from anything else in my entire life. Part of the reason I was quite upset the following months after I got banned. I have no clue if anyone else got banned, since I was banned from the facebook. AFAIK I'm the only person that bought loads of keyboards so maybe that has something to do with it.
zrrion wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 04:58
you would have to take even more care if you did that as you would have to report it on your taxes properly. If you sell outside of a major storefront you might be able to get away with avoiding it. not a tax expert, don't take this as advise of any sort.
I'm not trying to get out of taxes or anything of the sort, I just haven't got my records together at the current point in time. Whether I sell on redmarket or ebay, I still plan on paying my taxes.

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zrrion

17 Mar 2020, 05:12

Not trying to suggest you're dodging taxes lol, just a heads up since you mentioned not having all your records together presently. its a terrible idea to rely on getting your receipts together later as you will likely loose something in the mean time, it is much safer to keep accurate and timely records, especially at the amounts you have mentioned.

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Redmaus
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17 Mar 2020, 05:17

zrrion wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 05:12
Not trying to suggest you're dodging taxes lol, just a heads up since you mentioned not having all your records together presently. its a terrible idea to rely on getting your receipts together later as you will likely loose something in the mean time, it is much safer to keep accurate and timely records, especially at the amounts you have mentioned.
For sure, I plan on sorting through my records and all sometime this week. I kept a couple spreadsheets with sales I did on the forums but they need updating. Will take a lot of time and patience, but I can't consider my business legitimate if I don't keep accurate records.

ThrowRA

17 Mar 2020, 06:48

https://imgur.com/a/nrOw1HZ

Gonna leave this here since Red cant seem to keep his story straight.

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E3E

17 Mar 2020, 07:39

What a fucking mess.

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subcat

17 Mar 2020, 07:58

you understand how this looks - half a dozen+ people across a few different platforms with the same story don't exactly carry 0 weight against only your word.

$7000 is an absolute shitload of money, like seriously - that's insane. you're making a point of mentioning that your motivation was to take as many items as possible in order to 'clear out the warehouse' or pay for the organizers medical bills, but it's clear to anyone with a fraction of a brain cell that monetary gain was your primary motive. and yeah, it was a liquidation, it's a free market, etc etc whatever, so there's nothing objectively wrong with that, but cut the crap and admit it. good on you for donating the $500, but won't your profits end up somewhere in the region of 20 times that when all is said and done?

you seem young, $7000 is probably an unfathomable amount of money to you. thus, it's not hard to believe that in your scramble to find valuable keyboards you (even accidentally) left a bunch of crap lying in the way and got territorial about your finds.

again, it's your word against the owners' and multiple people who were there with you.

this is just how it appears to me, anyway.

kmnov2017

17 Mar 2020, 08:50

I know people who went to computer reset, keyboards were sold for 5 to 10 USD a piece.

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Wodan
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17 Mar 2020, 09:03

I love how the "keyboard kid" seems to have really made a name for himself.

It's a very coherent picture of someone who lost all sense for morale and decency when faced with the opportunity to make a profit. Greed override ...

The fact you actually put up a store front to speed up selling while most of these people seems to be vintage computer nerds who were hoping to find a few nice systems and missing components just shows what a ruthless move that was.

What were you expecting? I really recommend you move on if you are looking for a place to circle jerk with other "high stakes" flippers.

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Redmaus
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17 Mar 2020, 13:43

ThrowRA wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 06:48
https://imgur.com/a/nrOw1HZ

Gonna leave this here since Red cant seem to keep his story straight.
You call this proof? The top images are people in the facebook shit talking me, which once again is nothing new. The bottom images are clearly PM's to whoever this 1 person is, who told them the most aggravating story they could.
First off, NO ONE reached out to me. The opposite happened, I was trying to make things right with the organizers for the longest time and I never did reestablish contact again. Also, I never took things that were claimed or belonged to other people. Those two last images are straight up bullshit.

The things I was grabbing were under piles of other boxes, hence the mess I made. It is impossible to say other people had their names on them because before I got there they weren't even visible for years. Let me say again that nobody reached out to me about this.

Also notice the two most aggressive and hurtful post in this very thread are made by throwaway accounts with barely any history on them if any. Notice too the accusations of stealing aren't in the Computer Reset facebook group, they are in some random PM which could easily be him typing to himself.
E3E wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 07:39
What a fucking mess.
Yeah, its not new to me.
subcat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 07:58
you understand how this looks - half a dozen+ people across a few different platforms with the same story don't exactly carry 0 weight against only your word.
The people seen on the facebook group have been complaining that I took all the keyboards and left a mess. Which is true.

However, the accusations of stealing have only come from random accounts and worthless screengrabs from PM's to and from who knows. I don't even know why he's doing it. This is seriously frustrating.
subcat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 07:58
$7000 is an absolute shitload of money, like seriously - that's insane. you're making a point of mentioning that your motivation was to take as many items as possible in order to 'clear out the warehouse' or pay for the organizers medical bills, but it's clear to anyone with a fraction of a brain cell that monetary gain was your primary motive. and yeah, it was a liquidation, it's a free market, etc etc whatever, so there's nothing objectively wrong with that, but cut the crap and admit it. good on you for donating the $500, but won't your profits end up somewhere in the region of 20 times that when all is said and done?
Making several grand over several months isn't insane. I didn't have to donate anything. At the time I had like $1500 in my bank account. I don't really want anything to do with computer reset anymore, and that includes donating my earnings to them.
subcat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 07:58
you seem young, $7000 is probably an unfathomable amount of money to you. thus, it's not hard to believe that in your scramble to find valuable keyboards you (even accidentally) left a bunch of crap lying in the way and got territorial about your finds.
I already fessed up to leaving a mess. I'm not arguing against that. I also got somewhat territorial as described in fault 2.
subcat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 07:58
again, it's your word against the owners' and multiple people who were there with you.

this is just how it appears to me, anyway.
Yeah, the stuff I just described above did happen. My PROBLEM is the accusations of stealing. Stealing is a very serious crime. I didn't take anything that wasn't paid for.
Wodan wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 09:03
I love how the "keyboard kid" seems to have really made a name for himself.

It's a very coherent picture of someone who lost all sense for morale and decency when faced with the opportunity to make a profit. Greed override ...
You know nothing about me.
Wodan wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 09:03
The fact you actually put up a store front to speed up selling while most of these people seems to be vintage computer nerds who were hoping to find a few nice systems and missing components just shows what a ruthless move that was.
Yeah, I put up the store to be ruthless. Seriously dude?
Wodan wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 09:03
What were you expecting? I really recommend you move on if you are looking for a place to circle jerk with other "high stakes" flippers.
I don't care about circlejerking, I'm trying to dispel rumors that I stole things. To little avail it seems.

EDIT:
Let me end this message off with one thing. For the stealing, if I really did take things that weren't mine wouldn't it be in the organizer's message to me at the top of my post? Wouldn't you see these accusations on the actual facebook group? Someone is out to get me, and I don't know why. I honestly don't know what to do.

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ZedTheMan

17 Mar 2020, 15:14

ngl, really surprised to see Wodan trashing you like this, Redmaus. For what it's worth, you weren't perfect but accusations of theft are not okay when they haven't surfaced at all until recently.

But then, what do I know? I wasn't there, my perspective is incomplete. This goes both ways, of course.

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Weezer

17 Mar 2020, 16:47

I'm not really involved in this and I didnt really want to be involved, but I just wanted to share my thoughts after reading through the thread.

Why did the organizers sell the keyboards to RedMaus if they didn't want him to have them? Or let him steal tens of keyboards?

Why did the organizers not tell RedMaus to clean up his mess before he left? I don't understand how a mess could be so big that it was a major problem but so small that no one notices or complains about it until after RedMaus has left. (Yes ive seen computer reset)

Honestly it sounds like RedMaus was certainly taking advantage of everything, but the Computer Reset thing seems poorly managed. All of these issues sound like things that could have been easily avoided by having better oversight over what was going on in the warehouse or by enforcing expectations about what each person could buy.
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zrrion

17 Mar 2020, 16:50

Redmaus wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 05:04
This is most definitely a one-off scenario.
Are you sure about that? I have heard different.

Honestly though, this thread is you complaining about people not liking your shitty behaviour and your only response is to say it was shitty but not as shitty as everyone says. That's not a good defense, especially when all we have to take your word for it.

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Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere

17 Mar 2020, 17:57

Weezer wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 16:47
I'm not really involved in this and I didnt really want to be involved, but I just wanted to share my thoughts after reading through the thread.

Why did the organizers sell the keyboards to RedMaus if they didn't want him to have them? Or let him steal tens of keyboards?

Why did the organizers not tell RedMaus to clean up his mess before he left? I don't understand how a mess could be so big that it was a major problem but so small that no one notices or complains about it until after RedMaus has left. (Yes ive seen computer reset)
This is essentially why I was upset about being banned. No one told me there was any problem until after I left.
Weezer wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 16:47
Honestly it sounds like RedMaus was certainly taking advantage of everything, but the Computer Reset thing seems poorly managed. All of these issues sound like things that could have been easily avoided by having better oversight over what was going on in the warehouse or by enforcing expectations about what each person could buy.
The expectation on what to buy when I was there was buy as much as you can, this place will be gone in a month or so.
zrrion wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 16:50
Are you sure about that? I have heard different.
100% positive. Where have you heard different? I'd like to know. Probably another screenshot of random PM's that mean nothing.
zrrion wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 16:50
Honestly though, this thread is you complaining about people not liking your shitty behaviour and your only response is to say it was shitty but not as shitty as everyone says. That's not a good defense, especially when all we have to take your word for it.
Nope, this thread is to address people calling me a thief which isn't true whatsoever. My response is my honest accounting of what happened. I'm sure I could make up some lies like the people accusing me and have a better defense.

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kbdfr
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17 Mar 2020, 19:23

I had to think a long way back before I knew what this thread reminds me of.
Look at the date :lol:
Redmaus wrote:
24 Mar 2016, 22:46
Jeez you guys are really desperate to bash Trump aren't you?

You essentially just called him satan with a bunch of false claims.
This, of course, is not to say i think Redmaus did steal anything.
After all, it was quite unnecessary given his "art of the deal".

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Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere

17 Mar 2020, 19:28

kbdfr wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 19:23
I had to think a long way back before I knew what this thread reminds me of.
Look at the date :lol:
Redmaus wrote:
24 Mar 2016, 22:46
Jeez you guys are really desperate to bash Trump aren't you?
You essentially just called him satan with a bunch of false claims.
I was an edgy teenager at the time to be sure. I'm not as passionate about politics now :lol:
kbdfr wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 19:23
This, of course, is not to say i think Redmaus did steal anything.
After all, it was quite unnecessary given his "art of the deal".
Pretty much this. I have no clue why anyone would steal from Computer Reset with the pricing they had.

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17 Mar 2020, 19:50

Redmaus wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 13:43
Notice too the accusations of stealing aren't in the Computer Reset facebook group, they are in some random PM which could easily be him typing to himself.
Like this?
Redmaus wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 02:29
Then, after some emails with someone I met at CR I asked him if all those things were true and he had this to say:
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This was a huge relief to me as it made clear that I essentially got banned for taking too much and making a mess. Not for yelling at people and the like.
Also, did you donate the money before or after you were banned?

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Redmaus
Gotta start somewhere

17 Mar 2020, 20:09

snacksthecat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 19:50
Like this?
It's an email. I'm using it to add context to my viewpoint. It isn't the same thing as accusations of stealing. I don't want to include any more details because I don't really wanna drag him into this.
snacksthecat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 19:50
Also, did you donate the money before or after you were banned?
After.
Does it make a difference? I wanted to pay my respects to the owners and help with their situation. I knew I wasn't getting back in.

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17 Mar 2020, 20:13

Redmaus wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 20:09
snacksthecat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 19:50
Like this?
It's an email. I'm using it to add context to my viewpoint. It isn't the same thing as accusations of stealing. I don't want to include any more details because I don't really wanna drag him into this.
snacksthecat wrote:
17 Mar 2020, 19:50
Also, did you donate the money before or after you were banned?
After.
Does it make a difference? I wanted to pay my respects to the owners and help with their situation. I knew I wasn't getting back in.
1) It's actually the exact same thing

2) Of course it matters. Guilt is a thing.

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