Computer Reset Conundrum

[Redmaus]

1) It's actually the exact same thing

It isn't, I'm not using this to try and accuse someone of stealing and touting it as proof. It's not the same at all.

2) Of course it matters. Guilt is a thing.

It's money they have. Why does it matter? I explained why I did it, and it wasn't out of guilt.

[snacksthecat]

All I'm saying is, I've made two valid observations and (surprise) you've quickly excused them away (like everything else).

Edit:

Would appreciate any advice or thoughts on the subject.

Move on with life. Make better decisions in the future. Be happy.

[E3E]

Not gonna lie, this thread is just making you look worse and drawing more attention to you and this entire situation.

[abrahamstechnology]

I'm going to side with Redmaus on this one.

OP seems to have good intentions and did not deliberately wreck the place. If this "Justin Scott" is so sensitive to rageban someone about a few mistakes he seems to have other issues. Also, I don't see what's so bad about making a profit (and donating ~7% of it back to the original owner with medical bills). It's preferable than having the keyboards dumped into a closet and left to rot, and it ensures that the keyboards now have good homes (someone who spends ~90 USD for a model M isn't likely to throw it in the bin anytime soon).

As a vintage computer hobbyist I also don't like seeing keyboards being separated from their systems, but if the boards were in a pile and unlabeled, or it it was nonchalantly tossed in a box I can hardly blame OP.

[ThrowRA]

I'm going to side with Redmaus on this one.

OP seems to have good intentions and did not deliberately wreck the place. If this "Justin Scott" is so sensitive to rageban someone about a few mistakes he seems to have other issues. Also, I don't see what's so bad about making a profit (and donating ~7% of it back to the original owner with medical bills). It's preferable than having the keyboards dumped into a closet and left to rot, and it ensures that the keyboards now have good homes (someone who spends ~90 USD for a model M isn't likely to throw it in the bin anytime soon).

As a vintage computer hobbyist I also don't like seeing keyboards being separated from their systems, but if the boards were in a pile and unlabeled, or it it was nonchalantly tossed in a box I can hardly blame OP.

I contacted the owners of Computer Reset. Eric here stole units that were explicitly marked for other people and was caught camera doing so. Do I need to get more screenshots of that conversation? He may have purchased most units, but he was explicitly taking other people's claimed goods for his own profit and is doing his absolutely best to cover his ass here. His guilty conscience after being called out by no less than 25 people across every platform, being banned from every discord server he tries joining to slander people, and this message all contribute to my reasoning. The owners of the group even say that many units disappeared without any record of purchase, at the same time that Eric here left. Those units ended up on the Redmarket store. This is sale of stolen goods at its root.

[abrahamstechnology]

Joined: Today, 01:47
Yeah, you are completely credible...
Also I doubt you actually have CCTV footage. All you posted are rando comments on Facebook. You need to show evidence. None of what you are claiming would hold up in court likely.

Mr Scott, if this is you, you should hire people to "properly" clear out your ewaste dump if you are so particular rather than inviting randos in. You'll likely get far more money doing it that way by selling the systems yourself.

[chimp]

For Heaven's sake, lad. If you are indeed 20, you have an immense amount of growing up to do. No amount of your useless rebuttals to valid criticism from others will change the fact you've demonstrated a concerning lack of contrition, and in some cases, even an understanding for what you've done wrong in this situation. You made this thread from a fixation upon some labels you didn't agree with spurring you into a frankly egotistical crusade, and people rightfully aren't putting up with your bullshit. Ctrl+f for "sorry" yielded zero results.

If you do so care about your reputation, which this thread has ironically dragged further into the mud, I suggest you go and think about your own capacity for real honesty, empathy, awareness and moral fibre, and not at the behest of making money.

[Redmaus]

I contacted the owners of Computer Reset. Eric here stole units that were explicitly marked for other people and was caught camera doing so. Do I need to get more screenshots of that conversation? He may have purchased most units, but he was explicitly taking other people's claimed goods for his own profit and is doing his absolutely best to cover his ass here. His guilty conscience after being called out by no less than 25 people across every platform, being banned from every discord server he tries joining to slander people, and this message all contribute to my reasoning. The owners of the group even say that many units disappeared without any record of purchase, at the same time that Eric here left. Those units ended up on the Redmarket store. This is sale of stolen goods at its root.

POST THE FOOTAGE. PLEASE. I would love to see it. Because I know it doesn't exist.

I'm going to side with Redmaus on this one.

OP seems to have good intentions and did not deliberately wreck the place. If this "Justin Scott" is so sensitive to rageban someone about a few mistakes he seems to have other issues. Also, I don't see what's so bad about making a profit (and donating ~7% of it back to the original owner with medical bills). It's preferable than having the keyboards dumped into a closet and left to rot, and it ensures that the keyboards now have good homes (someone who spends ~90 USD for a model M isn't likely to throw it in the bin anytime soon).

As a vintage computer hobbyist I also don't like seeing keyboards being separated from their systems, but if the boards were in a pile and unlabeled, or it it was nonchalantly tossed in a box I can hardly blame OP.

Thanks, I appreciate the kind words.

Mr Scott, if this is you, you should hire people to "properly" clear out your ewaste dump if you are so particular rather than inviting randos in. You'll likely get far more money doing it that way by selling the systems yourself.

I very highly doubt Mr. Scott or any of the actual organizers have anything to do with this now. I couldn't imagine them doing anything like this.

For Heaven's sake, lad. If you are indeed 20, you have an immense amount of growing up to do. No amount of your useless rebuttals to valid criticism from others will change the fact you've demonstrated a concerning lack of contrition, and in some cases, even an understanding for what you've done wrong in this situation. You made this thread from a fixation upon some labels you didn't agree with spurring you into a frankly egotistical crusade, and people rightfully aren't putting up with your bullshit. Ctrl+f for "sorry" yielded zero results.

If you do so care about your reputation, which this thread has ironically dragged further into the mud, I suggest you go and think about your own capacity for real honesty, empathy, awareness and moral fibre, and not at the behest of making money.

Do me a favor and read the thread. I'm not here to say sorry. I'm here to address people saying I stole things which isn't true. Apologies have been made months ago. If you can't see how accusations of stealing are a problem, I don't know what else to say to you man. I'm not going to to take any of what you said seriously considering you can't even read.

[snacksthecat]

OP seems to have good intentions

http://archive.is/LbAJW


"Why do people think I'm a jerk???" redmaus says to himself in a room surrounded by keyboards.

[Redmaus]

"Why do people think I'm a jerk???" redmaus says to himself in a room surrounded by keyboards.

Wow, I guess I'm the devil now. Really dude? Does this relate at all to the stealing accusations? I have the right to speak my mind.

[chimp]

Do me a favor and read the thread. I'm not here to say sorry. I'm here to address people saying I stole things which isn't true. Apologies have been made months ago. If you can't see how accusations of stealing are a problem, I don't know what else to say to you man. I'm not going to to take any of what you said seriously considering you can't even read.

Oh I know you're not here to apologise, and I did not suggest that was the case. In fact if you comprehended my post properly you'd see that was my contention, that instead of expressing contrition you are merely here for self-service. Judging by the situation those months old apologies don't seem to have satisfied? I assume you believe that is also through no fault your own. You are not going to take any of what I said seriously, much the same as many of the responses in this thread, because you are immature and irresponsible.

[snacksthecat]

Really dude?

Yeah, that's exactly what I said to myself when you thought you were going to win a DTA for this.

[abrahamstechnology]

From the VCFED page:

Why are they interested in buying crappy dirty keyboards for $5 when brand new ones are available for $5.99 shipped.

LMAO! Shows you the kind of people slandering and hating on Red. Reminds me of myself a little while back hating on a certain fanbase (over that now, thankfully)

[ZedTheMan]

Oh jeez this is imploding fast.

[kelvinhall05]

I don't wanna get too deep or one-sided in this, but the way I see it is that he took keyboards that nobody else was gonna take, paid the asking prices, and sold them...just like people did with the computers or whatever.

[zrrion]

Except for the part where other people were going to take them and he was told not to take from other peoples reserved stuff.

[Redmaus]

Except for the part where other people were going to take them and he was told not to take from other peoples reserved stuff.

I never took from people's reserved stuff. How could I possibly buy things from people's reserved stuff when the organizer looks thru my pile before I buy it? Dude could I get some proof? Were you at Computer Reset? Where are you getting this information?

[Weezer]

I don't see a point in continuing this conversation. This is only going to end poorly for all parties. Nothing anyone says is going to change what RedMaus says and nothing he says is going to change anyone's mind that's already made up.

[ZedTheMan]

I don't see a point in continuing this conversation. This is only going to end poorly for all parties. Nothing anyone says is going to change what RedMaus says and nothing he says is going to change anyone's mind that's already made up.

Yeah at this point sorry to say but it's best if this thread just dies.

[Redmaus]

I don't see a point in continuing this conversation. This is only going to end poorly for all parties. Nothing anyone says is going to change what RedMaus says and nothing he says is going to change anyone's mind that's already made up.

Fair enough, but I'd like to see that footage. I made this thread to address accusations of stealing, and it blew up into something else.

Is ThrowRA going to back up his claim? I think not.

[SneakyRobb]

Regardless of guilt/fault/whatever this thread should stop. Nothing good will come from it. We will gain no keyboard knowledge or excellence from this discussion. I am deeply dismayed at the occurrences here.

[Weezer]

We will gain no keyboard knowledge or excellence from this discussion. I am deeply dismayed at the occurrences here.

The way you phrased this made me chuckle. I'm sorry because I have no idea whether you're being 100% serious with your wording and I don't mean to offend.

[snacksthecat]

Yeah sorry about my comment. That wasn't really necessary or nice. I'll keep my opinions to myself .

[abrahamstechnology]

The one box he "stole" from didn't have any name. Again, CCTV footage is the only way to prove he did anything ill.
Or, you could keep believing these stupid theories put out by angry ageist old guys who self-admit they hate both young people and keyboard enthusiasts. What's next, did Russia collude with Redamus to steal Apple IICs?

[kelvinhall05]

The one box he "stole" from didn't have any name. Again, CCTV footage is the only way to prove he did anything ill.
Or, you could keep believing these stupid theories put out by angry ageist old guys who self-admit they hate both young people and keyboard enthusiasts. What's next, did Russia collude with Redamus to steal Apple IICs?

bbbut rebbit told me dat he STOLLE keybords11!!!11!!1 i donut need prooof!

[Redmaus]

The one box he "stole" from didn't have any name. Again, CCTV footage is the only way to prove he did anything ill.
Or, you could keep believing these stupid theories put out by angry ageist old guys who self-admit they hate both young people and keyboard enthusiasts. What's next, did Russia collude with Redamus to steal Apple IICs?

The one box I took that board from was immediately put back. Also yes I email with Putin all the time, he's sending me some OG cyrillic dyesubs soon

Yeah sorry about my comment. That wasn't really necessary or nice. I'll keep my opinions to myself .

I don't mind a little banter, I'm not really an artisan guy to begin with so a wingnut would probably just collect dust

bbbut rebbit told me dat he STOLLE keybords11!!!11!!1 i donut need prooof!

It's not even reddit, I think its like one guy with multiple accounts. No doubt the same person as ThrowRA and exemplar.

[E3E]

LMAO! Shows you the kind of people slandering and hating on Red. Reminds me of myself a little while back hating on a certain fanbase (over that now, thankfully)

Of course it does. Both of you have the same unabashed sensitive egos and can't take criticism with any semblance of grace, humility, or a willingness to see your faults and improve, instead considering anything of that nature as an attack and discrediting it so you can stay in your happy place.

Before this, I hadn't even known Redmaus was accused of stealing, just that he was banned from Computer Reset. This whole thing has been blown right open now. It didn't look good before this thread was made, but now it's fresh again, and it looks even worse because of the way Redmaus has responded throughout.This thread hasn't accomplished anything positive, but it has made a few things obvious.

To be honest, he shouldn't have said anything and just kept quietly running his shop.

[SenhorHoshino]

All this moral heroes bashing Redmaus...

He made a mess, apologized for it.

I think this thread doesn’t make any sense. He found some nice cheap stuff and made some money off of it, so what? That’s circular economy for you.

I’d like to see one of you finding 30 NIB SSKs and give it away for free or donate all the money.

Do that first and then trash the man. Jeez...

@Redmaus, you won’t find afformations here, just move on and be happy. People are buying stuff from your site, that’s good.

[dcopellino]

All this moral heroes bashing Redmaus...

He made a mess, apologized for it.

I think this thread doesn’t make any sense. He found some nice cheap stuff and made some money off of it, so what? That’s circular economy for you.

I’d like to see one of you finding 30 NIB SSKs and give it away for free or donate all the money.

Do that first and then trash the man. Jeez...

@Redmaus, you won’t find afformations here, just move on and be happy. People are buying stuff from your site, that’s good.

I totally agree. Don't mind about that. Just Thinking that you challenged viruses in that ugly place!!!

P.s. I'll write later a pm for the discount coupon

[kbdfr]

[…] I’d like to see one of you finding 30 NIB SSKs and give it away for free or donate all the money. […]

Having registered with DT a year ago, obviously you missed a lot of what commonly happened here
before all you youngsters with $ signs in your eyes started flooding the site.

Oh, by the way:
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=13274