Keypuller.com, key caps gallery and database

[matt3o]

I'm planning on adding sub-entries, so for each set or novelty you can add variants. Also useful for round-2-3-4-...

but it's a one man show... I proceed slowly

I'm happy to see that there's a huge interest in the project (looking at web stats) and I will probably soon need to find a better server.

[Madhias]

Perfect! It just interesting to see all this different sets and also different novelties like Clacks and their often funny color names. Also it should be saved somewhere for all our next generations

[matt3o]

problem is data entry. so far I got very little help from the community, I'd say I've added 95% of entries. But I'll try to make the submission process easier

[Madhias]

Maybe it's not the difficulty but more the laziness of all. I registered today, let's see what i can add in the future.

[Muirium]

Yeah, you're feeling the same thing Daniel does with the wiki now. Keypuller's surely much easier to add information to, but most my keyboards are IBM with very similar caps, so the amount I can contribute to the database is actually quite minimal. I need to sift through pictures of caps for some good ones, and actually sit down and spend some time working out what Keypuller needs from me. There'll definitely be a surge in my input, come Round 5. In the meantime, though, I've honestly only a handful of aftermarket cap sets.

[Compgeke]

Will there be a way to edit already submitted entries to add a better picture or fix description text? Don't see a way right now although I might be missing something.

[matt3o]

common users can only suggest new sets. I will be adding an easy way to drag n drop new pictures to current sets. If you have more info about a set you may use the comments.

moderators on the other hand have full access to the admin console and can edit the entries directly.

[Muirium]

Feature request: link back to relevant forum thread for caps GBs. For instance:

http://keypuller.com/granite/

Links to PMK, but not to our design and sales threads. I went to Keypuller just now trying to find the name of the Ukrainian who helped you design the Cyrillic kit…

[Daniel Beardsmore]

Should manufacturer not be a category? For example, there's no way to find Tai-Hao caps, since there's no manufacturer categorisation or search.

A free text search for "Vortex"—who I know are in there as they appear on the front page—finds absolutely nothing. (In case you're expected to pick from at least one dropdown, I set profile = OEM, and that had no effect. It seems you've done WHERE title LIKE "?%", since "clack" works, but "factory" (not the first word in a title) fails to find anything. It only seems to find text at the start of a title (e.g. "calm" but not "depths")

There's also no search by keycap mount or by switch type, or by legend type, or by category … Double-shot for example isn't even a tag.

It's very pretty, but I'm not sure what the point of it actually is, since there's no way to get from anything to anything else, to properly search and filter, or to browse by any kind of categorisation. For example, the blue "Full sets" banner across an image isn't clickable and doesn't go anywhere, so there goes your attempt to look through the full sets.

[matt3o]

It's very pretty, but I'm not sure what the point of it actually is

the point is, that is the best I can do with the little time I have. They updated a plugin and something broke. I have to update the code. Also the DB is based on wordpress that is not meant as a database. I will eventually add more features over time and hopefully even make a dedicated software for it (already started), if you are really patient you'll see the point.

[Muirium]

Even right now, it's an excellent place to link to when someone asks about a set. Daniel's right that it's not great for discovery, yet, but those of us in the know have a great resource to point to. And the database is getting bigger while in this public alpha, of sorts! Everything is unfinished on the internet, or it's dead!

[Daniel Beardsmore]

Keypuller is beauty over functionality, while the wiki is fact over appearance. It's probably time for the wiki to be "beautified" to make it more appealing (it looks really dreary, and now that it's established, some effort could be put into it to make it more inviting), while Keypuller comes across as just being designed to be a pretty face — you can't actually get to any of the data in it. Also, the extreme emphasis on beauty means that any photos I could submit would look terribly out of place, while the wiki—being focused on factual content—will survive even without studio-grade photography (just look at all my dreadful photos!)

[matt3o]

you are misinterpreting "beauty" with "front-end design functional".

like I said the search is broken because they updated a plugin and I couldn't find the time to debug my code. You could search basically everything from there (if it worked)

[7bit]

Why are there only 4 rows with photos and the rest without on each page?

[matt3o]

Why are there only 4 rows with photos and the rest without on each page?

don't get it, sorry

[002]

I tihnk 7bit must have some problem because he's using some ancient coal-powered browser

[Muirium]

Yup. He's just requesting a whole second design, as a fallback for users browsing without javascript or anything else post-Netscape, which would only ever be him… simple!

Alternate data point: I'm on my 12 year old PowerBook just now (running a 10 year old OS and a community PowerPC port of Firefox) and Keypuller renders beautifully. I don't think you've much to worry about.

[matt3o]

oh ok. will think about it

[7bit]

I tihnk 7bit must have some problem because he's using some ancient coal-powered browser

If it is correctly programmed it should work with any browser.

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<div class="featured-image"
<a href="http://keypuller.com/calm-depths/">
<img width="480" height="300" src="http://cdn.keypuller.com/2014/10/calm-depths-koalapear-1_-480x300.jpg" class="attachment-thumbnail wp-post-image" alt="Calm Depths, image by koalapear" /></a> <span
class="main-category category-fullset">Full sets</span> <span
class="hearts-count icon-heart">11</span></div><div
class="post-content"><div
class="entry-meta"> <span
class="posted-on"><time
title="Posted on" class="entry-date published icon-clock" datetime="2014-10-07T09:22:50+00:00">Posted on 2014.10.07</time><time
class="updated" datetime="2014-10-10T19:41:55+00:00">2014.10.10</time></span></div><header
class="entry-header"><h2 class="entry-title"><a
href="http://keypuller.com/calm-depths/" rel="bookmark">Calm Depths</a></h2> </header></div> </article> <article
id="post-438" class="post-438 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-fullset tag-artisan tag-steampunk tag-typewriter">
<div class="featured-image">
<a href="http://keypuller.com/datamancer-typewriter/">
<img width="480" height="300" src="http://keypuller.com/wp-content/themes/kp/images/empty-thumb.png" class="inview wp-post-image" alt="Datamancer" data-src="http://cdn.keypuller.com/2014/10/type2_-480x300.jpg" />
</a>
<span
class="main-category category-fullset">Full sets</span> <span
class="hearts-count icon-heart">3</span></div><div
class="post-content"><div
class="entry-meta"> <span
class="posted-on"><time
title="Posted on" class="entry-date published icon-clock" datetime="2014-10-06T18:29:28+00:00">Posted on 2014.10.06</time><time
class="updated" datetime="2014-10-08T08:58:48+00:00">2014.10.08</time></span></div><header
class="entry-header"><h2 class="entry-title"><a
href="http://keypuller.com/datamancer-typewriter/" rel="bookmark">Datamancer Typewriter</a></h2> </header></div> </article> <article
id="post-429" class="post-429 post type-post status-publish format-standard has-post-thumbnail hentry category-fullset tag-vendor">

As you can see, the last image is the Calm Depths one:


While the next (Datamancer Typewriter) is a dummy:



Not sure what your website generator does, but this is what it delivered to my browser.

[Muirium]

Which is?

I'm guessing not a current version of anything major or generally supported by anyone. Funny, because with that cranky disposition of yours, you'd make a great Opera fan!

[7bit]

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<img width="480" height="300" src="http://keypuller.com/wp-content/themes/kp/images/empty-thumb.png" class="inview wp-post-image" alt="Datamancer" data-src="http://cdn.keypuller.com/2014/10/type2_-480x300.jpg" />

As you can see:
src is set to the location of that empty picture and data-src is set to the picture everybody wants to see.


Not sure what the data-src-thing should do, but it does not appear in the first 4 rows.

Then, from row 5 onwards, it contains the actual image location, but src contains that dummy.

[webwit]

The idea is the images only start to load when you scroll them in view.

[7bit]

Then, here is the solution:
Put the correct image location into src and make sure your JavaScript prevents that image loading.

[Daniel Beardsmore]

I would put the "load into view" inventor into a special place in Hell … Trouble is, all my special places in Hell are full. That's the trouble with this eternal torment idea — you never free up any capacity for fresh blood.

The overuse of WordPress leaves me wondering — see, I had an idea years ago for an object-orientated building block system, loosely based on what I understood of Allaire Spectra from years before that. Being a very low-level approach, you could of course implement a blog very easily with it. Likewise you could reimplement much of the wiki fairly easily too, but you wouldn't have the markup or revision history.

The fact that everyone keeps abusing WordPress horribly raises the question of why such a product doesn't already exist or, if it does, why would people still be trying to shoehorn sites into WordPress?

[7bit]

If you had any sort of UNIX (like GNU/Linux or so) you could hard-link the hell to /dev/null, so there is maximum storage in hell and no return from it.

[Daniel Beardsmore]

You missed the torment aspect to Hell …

[Muirium]

Computers are Buddhist. As was the style of the time they came into being. /dev/null is perfection. No point in fighting it. It's the void where we all go, like a whatever it was I was thinking of. Um. Namaste.

[7bit]

Everybody squeezed into singularity, along with tons of discarded data, should be enough torment.

[UKKeycaps]

I like keypuller but it doesn't seem very up-to-date. Maybe if a content management system were developed trusted contributers could keep it a bit more relevant.

[matt3o]

I had a very difficult year (both family and work) and hadn't time to follow all my projects. At the top of my priority there's the whitefox now, but keypuller is still in my heart

I will be pushing an update before year end so that posting new material will be tremendously easy, hopefully that will help!

In the mean time if you have any suggestion please don't hesitate!