IBM 1387033

[elecplus]

I read online that the "unsaver" does not have a delete key. Is this true?
If so, then do you really have to go past the mistake and backspace?
How can you do Ctrl+Alt+Del without a Del key?

[scottc]

Isn't that a delete key in the usual spot? That <- legend, I think, was used for delete way back in early IBM terminal systems.

Seeing this just reminds me of how much I want one of these! Such a gorgeous keyboard.

[hammelgammler]

Yeah I think so too. Would be unusual if there's not delete mapped to the key.

I can totally agree though, Unsaver is my favorite board of all time, but sadly I don't have one.

[jeb]

I think the key in the delete spot is actually back tab (accessed these days with shift+tab). The key in the lower right of that block may be delete, though? I'm not sure what those symbols mean.

[elecplus]

I just found a rather poorly done video of one on mashpedia, and yes, it is there. Wonder why the other fellow said there isn't one?

[tentator]

lol would be funny even if windows still did not exist back then when they created that keyboard! )))

[Halvar]

Yes, the key with the striked out a is Delete, the key next to it is Insert. Ctrl-Alt-Del will still be hard to do as there is no Ctrl...
Terminals were different beasts...

The symbols for Insert and Delete are derived from proofreading symbols like these:

http://www.ccc.commnet.edu/writing/symbols.htm

[daedalus]

A with Hat = Insert
A with squiggly line = Delete

One simply does not Ctrl-Alt-Delete a mainframe

[Muirium]

Heaven forfend that DOS nonsense!

[andrewjoy]

All hail the mighty DOS, its a shame IBM whet with dos when they could have gone with CP/M (or is is CP\M i forget now).

[Muirium]

Ach! Microsoft really got its tentacles deep in your mind if you can so easily mistake \ for that.

[andrewjoy]

Ach! Microsoft really got its tentacles deep in your mind if you can so easily mistake \ for that.

Hey i use UNIX all day In work !

Apple UNIX , guaranteed to have at least 25% more untested crap that does not work than your leading competitor.

Apple: ignoring power users on OSX since 29th June 2007

[Muirium]

Whatever. Only Microsoft went with backslash for directory separators just to spite the world. The web went the UNIX way, the right way, because Tim Berners-Lee was using NeXT, not DOS or Windows.

[andrewjoy]

Whatever. Only Microsoft went with backslash for directory separators just to spite the world. The web went the UNIX way, the right way, because Tim Berners-Lee was using NeXT, not DOS or Windows.

i wonder if MS used \ or / in Xenix

[seebart]

Oh boy, this thread just turned into an OS war.

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[Muirium]

Not an OS war. But a very specific skirmish about / and \ !

[andrewjoy]

\ is on a nice big key in the ANSI layout , easy to get to see. / does make more sense however.

I vote we need a quota on the web, 50% / and 50% \ , its only fair right?

[Wodan]

My favourite part about this is having to replace \ with / when using windows paths in Java coding ...
Rich source of stupid errors ...

[seebart]

Even worse, \°°/.

[alh84001]

Some nice info on the rationale behind path separator in Win and DOS - https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/larryo ... character/

@Wodan just don't tell me there are String constants in code That's what File.separator is for.

[y11971alex]

A with Hat = Insert
A with squiggly line = Delete

One simply does not Ctrl-Alt-Delete a mainframe

But you can Big Red Switch it.

[elecplus]

Finding these things is like pulling hen's teeth! There might be hope yet. Should know by Monday.

[seebart]

Finding these things is like pulling hen's teeth! There might be hope yet. Should know by Monday.

If anyone but you said that I would not give one cent. Again, and again and again:

thank you for your efforts Cindy!

[hammelgammler]

Finding these things is like pulling hen's teeth! There might be hope yet. Should know by Monday.

Yeah if anyone can find an Unsaver with a reasonable propability then it's Cindy. I remember that huge stack of SSK months ago.

[Muirium]

The NIB SSK haul? That was 2014 as I recall. (Had to wait until early last year to get my hands on mine, via luggage.) Time flies, like SSKs do!

[elecplus]

Yes, it was 2014 Hard to believe I closed the warehouse a year ago.
I am trying real hard to make this the year of the unsavers, 4704s, and beamsprings.
I will keep trying

[Britney Spears]

My favourite part about this is having to replace \ with / when using windows paths in Java coding ...
Rich source of stupid errors ...

Is there a good reason not to use the built-in abstraction for this problem?
I'm not a Java developer but is use it in Node.js all the time.

Edit: I see that alh84001 has already posted this. Damn!