Apple [Standard] Keyboard - shortcuts for Delete, PgDn, PgUp, End etc?

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31 Jan 2018, 09:36

It seems all the more recent compact Apple keyboards have an Fn key with which to compose those missing editing keystrokes, but there isn't one on M0118 and its sibling(s). So, are there any secret key combinations that accomplish this (websearch didn't reveal any info...) or is it just not possible to enter, say, Delete without a software solution (Autohotkey or similar)? I suppose the answer is 'No' even though that seems rather strange.

Any help much appreciated!


31 Jan 2018, 18:17

You have it connected with a protocol converter to a modern host computer?
Then you could have custom mappings in the converter or on the host. Autohotkey for Windows.
Hasu's converter firmware might have support that you could enable if you program it in, compile and install.

Or, does the Clear key work like Num Lock on a PC? Then the numeric keys would have a nav cluster in Windows and Linux. Look at any PC keyboard to see what the keys do.

Classic Mac had shortcuts with the arrow keys and the Command and Option keys.

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31 Jan 2018, 20:58

Good thinking about the numpad / numlock!! Should have come up with that idea myself but didn't as there are no secondary labels on the keys. Will give that a try tomorrow. Thanks!


01 Feb 2018, 19:30

Is this relevant?
davkol wrote:
There are no navigation commands like Page Up, Page Down, Home, End, Insert and Delete.
Look up the Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines from back in the day. (BTW on the note of arrows, the HIG talk pretty much only about office-suite applications, in which case it kind of makes sense to group directions, I imagine.) There's the following (as a table) along with some context and recommendations that I won't quote:
  • Left Arrow — Arrow key alone: Left one character — With Option key: Left one word — With Command key or Shift key: To beginning of line
  • Right Arrow — Arrow key alone: Right one character — With Option key: Right one word — With Command key or Shift key: To end of line
  • Up Arrow — Arrow key alone: Up one line — With Option key: To start of paragraph — With Command key or Shift key: To top of window
  • Down Arrow — Arrow key alone: Down one line — With Option key: To end of paragraph — With Command key or Shift key: To bottom of window
These moved the "insertion point" (text cursor) and/or selection. Home, End and Page Up/Down didn't move the text cursor (or selection), but were equivalent to moving the scroll box, unlike on MS Windows later.

BTW there's an interesting excerpt:
To use arrow keys to make a text selection, the user holds down Shift while pressing an arrow key. If it’s important that your Macintosh application makes use of the numeric keypad, you shouldn’t use these Shift–arrow key combinations. This is because the keypad’s codes for the four Shift–arrow key combinations are the same as those for the keypad’s +, *, /, and = keys.

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03 Feb 2018, 14:57

Also - Karabiner can help here ....

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05 Feb 2018, 17:01

Thanks for your input, guys. I'll try out these ideas over the next couple of days.

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05 Feb 2018, 17:43

Delete : Control-D
Backspace : Control-H
Yank from cursor to end of line : Control-K
Paste from Cut registry : Control-Y
Delete from -1 character from cursor : Control-R
Go to beginning of paragraph/line : Control-A
Go to end of paragraph/line : Control-E
Go to next page : Control-V
Go to next line : Control-N
Select all from cursor to end : Control-Shift-V
etc. etc.

For page-down/up on Safari and such you can use space and shift-space.

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